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Message: [QUOTE="cohenzone, post: 4106765, member: 504"] The reason why there is such difficulty in stopping the spread in the USA with great doctors, scientists and hospitals is too many people won’t do pretty simple things, minor sacrifices. We have “mandates” these days only because of that resistance. A few months ago, my wife ( a very recent cancer survivor) and I flew cross country so between the airports and the flights we were masked for over 8 straight hours and gee whiz, made it through and we are both now triple Pfizered and survived that too. We’ve been to one zoom COVID death funeral and personally know some pretty young victims within the past 4 months who had relatively mild cases but still had to quarantine. Are there situations where we are being over cautious? Probably. Because the downside is worse. Getting the spread controlled will end any thought of mandates and get us back more to the “old” normal. There really is no good reason where some hospitals are again running out of ICU beds because of COVID. This all sucks but there are actually ways to do better. [/QUOTE]