OT: Interesting article about Yard Goats employment

[Deepster]

Jobs, with a catch: Dunkin’ Donuts Park positions mostly low-paying, seasonal for Hartford residents

As measured in local enthusiasm, Dunkin’ Donuts Park has been a rousing success for the city of Hartford. As measured in job opportunities for local residents, though, the results have been m…

www.courant.com

 

[Mano]

Not only that, but they're gonna get full of holes like them donuts. What with all them bullets and such.

Is it just Dunkin' Park now? Sounds like a Linkin Park reject.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Ummm, it's completely understood across about 300 MiLB franchises that jobs are low paying and seasonal. You have no more than 10-15 full-time year round jobs in a MiLB franchise. And out of that number, about 4-5 pay more than $60k/yr.

 

[CL82]

Ummm, it's completely understood across about 300 MiLB franchises that jobs are low paying and seasonal. You have no more than 10-15 full-time year round jobs in a MiLB franchise. And out of that number, about 4-5 pay more than $60k/yr.

Well we can't all be this guy:

 

[The Viking]

It was a valiant - but lame - effort, Deepster

 

[alexd]

I read this article earlier. After ever paragraph, I kept thinking, and???.... so???....

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Ummm, it's completely understood across about 300 MiLB franchises that jobs are low paying and seasonal. You have no more than 10-15 full-time year round jobs in a MiLB franchise.

Sure, but how many were forced to accept their job offers at gunpoint?

 

[Robertelamin]

Deep thoughts by Deepster.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

What’s next Deepster? An article about mall Santas who are stunned they don’t have a job December 26?

 

[Deepster]

I don't know. I mean, I guess the fact that this stadium was supposed to generate more jobs in Hartford and develop the surrounding area and it's gotten none of that accomplished yet should maybe be somewhat concerning. No? And that lack of success in those regards comes during years of consistent sellouts and league high attendance.

 

[Exit 4]

This article was absurd. A total turd by the HC. It tried to have a point, but frankly the point is absurd.

 

[alexd]

The surrounding area development was tabled due to the developer delays and changing of developers and the lawsuits filed by the original developer. The recent news was that they are moving forward with development across the street with the positive lawsuit ruling.

 

[Exit 4]

The surrounding area development was delayed due to the contractor delays and the lawsuits filed by the contractor. The recent news was that they are moving forward with development across the street with the positive lawsuit ruling.

Its also delayed because these projects arent a slam dunk. There is a lot of risk for the builder/developer. Costs are high in CT, operating expenses for rentals very high and rents aren't stupendous. In short the cost per square foot to build in a place like Hartford is the same as Stamford, but Stamford has perhaps rents that are 50% higher. All this stuff (ie lack of a slam dunk economic story) slows it down as much as anything else. Its much easier to pull the trigger and start when the banks and the equity investors see a strong opportunity.

 

[Chin Diesel]

The surrounding area development was tabled due to the developer delays and changing of developers and the lawsuits filed by the original developer. The recent news was that they are moving forward with development across the street with the positive lawsuit ruling.

Yeah, if there isn't some decent development signed by end of year, it'll be a bit worrisome. Current developer said they were ready to go as soon as judge dismissed lien.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Its also delayed because these projects arent a slam dunk. There is a lot of risk for the builder/developer. Costs are high in CT, operating expenses for rentals very high and rents aren't stupendous. In short the cost per square foot to build in a place like Hartford is the same as Stamford, but Stamford has perhaps rents that are 50% higher. All this stuff (ie lack of a slam dunk economic story) slows it down as much as anything else. Its much easier to pull the trigger and start when the banks and the equity investors see a strong opportunity.

It really needs to be lightning in a bottle but if they charge a little higher but still less than the outrageous costs you see in the surrounding suburbs like Glastonbury and WeHa they be able to draw those 23-30 year olds. People in that age group are infatuated with city life and want to be on the cutting edge of a movement. The area needs a cool bar and a Trader Joe’s.

 

[mdkhusky]

Who would have thought working at baseball stadium is a part time job. Isn’t part time jobs better than 0 jobs...

 

[Exit 4]

It really needs to be lightning in a bottle but if they charge a little higher but still less than the outrageous costs you see in the surrounding suburbs like Glastonbury and WeHa they be able to draw those 23-30 year olds. People in that age group are infatuated with city life and want to be on the cutting edge of a movement. The area needs a cool bar and a Trader Joe’s.

Yep - thats the story/formula that has fueled rapid inner city revivals in perhaps 50 of the top 60 economic centers in the country. Hartford is a little late to the cycle - been going on strong in most markets since mid 2000s.

 

[CTBasketball]

This article made me puke. If you don’t want minimum wage and seasonal hours don’t work as a line cook at a minor league baseball stadium.

 

[BlueMAB]

I can only speak for myself, but I don't care that the jobs are part time. They should still pay full time wages. Because fairness.

Oh, and health benefits too, because those are super-cheap for employers.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Now that their summer job is over these people will soon look for jobs at Halloween City, then seasonal employment with Target/Amazon, then they’ll dress up Liberty Tax people then back to the Goats.

 

[Excalibur]

Yawn . . .

 

[Waquoit]

The surrounding area development was tabled due to the developer delays and changing of developers and the lawsuits filed by the original developer. The recent news was that they are moving forward with development across the street with the positive lawsuit ruling.

The OP knows that and doesn't care. Once the area is a success he'll gin up a new faux outrage.

 

[huskymedic]

Its also delayed because these projects arent a slam dunk. There is a lot of risk for the builder/developer. Costs are high in CT, operating expenses for rentals very high and rents aren't stupendous. In short the cost per square foot to build in a place like Hartford is the same as Stamford, but Stamford has perhaps rents that are 50% higher. All this stuff (ie lack of a slam dunk economic story) slows it down as much as anything else. Its much easier to pull the trigger and start when the banks and the equity investors see a strong opportunity.

Yeah, if there isn't some decent development signed by end of year, it'll be a bit worrisome. Current developer said they were ready to go as soon as judge dismissed lien.

Salvatore has a good track record in a Stamford and New Haven.

‘I Don’t Have Any False Starts’; Downtown North Developer Predicts Successful Project

After years of delay, the city is moving ahead with plans to convert a series of vacant lots north of downtown into apartments, retail space and parking structures. New Canaan Developer Randy Salva…

www.courant.com

 

[Exit 4]

Salvatore has a good track record in a Stamford and New Haven.

‘I Don’t Have Any False Starts’; Downtown North Developer Predicts Successful Project

After years of delay, the city is moving ahead with plans to convert a series of vacant lots north of downtown into apartments, retail space and parking structures. New Canaan Developer Randy Salva…

www.courant.com

Randy S knows what he is doing. He has a key advantage - an integrated constr company. I'm just pointing out that Hartford has been slow to get in on the urban revitalization train that has been going bonkers is so many markets for the past 10-15 years because its not easy. The market is challenging with high constr costs and frankly modest rents in comparison to those costs and then its further hamstrung by elevated operating costs. There are a lot of reasons Hartford is not undergoing a Nashville style boom and one of them is costs; costs remain high and therefore delivering good real estate returns is a challenge.