Dann
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but something in all my endless bs that some of u like and some hate suddenly became off 2day. its confusing me a bit now as i think hard about it.
-nd left before all this went down..they knew all along. mike brey jumped the gun today by saying nd was going to the acc early with others. this confirms stuff late in this post to me. espn has it planned out to work.
-clem pres dug hard and then when the backwoods of sc wasn't valueable enough he shut up and went public doing so
-fsu is stringing everyone along, now we have a bot meeting...
-both uva and vt talked a bit of nothing in the begining and now have gone quiet
-the sec is waiting on the network in janurary then we shall see about unc/duke rumors
-cincy is in the same boat as us right now so explain to me how they can #1 get TT and #2 pay him what they agreed 2? then lets talk about how they went from nothing to vocal about expansion, powerpoints and and now quiet again. espn has pumped them a bit lately also.
but while the bball split has needed to happen for ever and i'm fine with today even tho most here birthed cows, something was off about it. things seem to be very messy with how they are breaking off. why? do they create a league or disolve? they need fball votes to do that blah blah. they have decided its time to split clearly but they dont have ducks in a row, why? i think i have the answer.
everyone here know that i take what ever espn says and twist it so i can find out the truth....its my espn thing lol. zls wants to size me up a bag by now. hes a good guy...i have completely misread espn and it pains me as i put this together 2night. for a while now i have talked about the way espn pumps and dumps uconn constantly, it all made sense to me for so long. until today. the messy way to split and the conf call etc. keep in mind how quiet our school and those in politics in ct have been along this ride the past month or so. keep in mind tax cuts and any relationship they have with the state of ct and uconn from employees to land permits and everything in between.
espn has always been ok to good to uconn accept for the acc stuff was the thought i always had, pump dump value devalue....espn owns the acc but also has stake in the b12, has $ in b10 tier games and sec also once they do the secN. they want to keep the acc together but realize it will not beat the other out. they are not stupid.
temple-is a have not because they droped down and now came back up
usf is a have not its more a cusa/commuter school like the others it will be with
there are 5 schools right now that matter at all:
byu-who will soon have to join somewhere
bsu-they are the school that will rise
both of those are out west, not important for this convo
cincy- is a have school and made several moves recent to say they are but yet a ugly future perception right now
uconn-is a have in espns state
nd-becuase fball has yet to join but bball and others are in the acc
-temple and usf barely have arguments to the have vs have not, but is any 1 willing to take that to court and see?
the bball schools need 2 fball schools to blow up the big east. i think that cincy and uconn will vote with them to do so. the espn-acc contract needs to stay at 14 fball schools. i think that espn knows what the acc will become and thinks that espn is better than that. yep i just said that. so i have been misreading it all along. espn pumps then dumps uconn constantly, why? they want to always make sure uconn is relevant in the convo and then goes elsewhere for teams. espn views its state and uconn very highly to the point it wants uconn to be in a great conf that thy deserve. the b10. espn wants uconn to fit the big boy status and finally get its seat, a better seat then the acc. in the b10 uconn can have game on espn under the tier agreement espn has with the b10 and espn can enjoy its home state sucess with uconn. i can't believe i didn't see this earlier. while everyone else sleeps on uconn becuase we are new and in a far corner from where most big boy fball programs are, uconn doesn't get a lot of positive press. so espn this whole time has tried to keep uconsn name relevant by pumping and dumping. espn is quietly part of all this b10 stuff i have been talking about but i had there angle wrong.
va politics has been quiet. why? because both schools are going to get big boy seats. gtech got vocal recently and when they learned they would be left out the pres came out shot everything down and went quiet. they tried and it didn't work out for them.
when cincy and uconn vote with the bball schools this will happen
uva/uconn to the b10
cincy to the acc
now the big east fball schools go abck to a huge cusa type league whether they lead a new league or join the new cusa doesn't matter. the west schools will stay out west.
now the whole usf/temple thing comes into play. and so does vt with va politics.
vt/fsu to the b12. this does not happen until the sec makes its pick in priate that unc and duke down the road will be the ones for the secN to 16. the b12 now has enough for a conf ship game. the b10 and sec have 16 and the acc has what it needs. when this happens temple and usf go to the acc to keep them at 14.5. everything logistics wise works. the pc can make its moves but we dont care as they aren't a east coast player...
the $ angle makes sense for espn to play this out and have cincy/uconn blow up the big east with the bball onlys. espn needs the big east league/brand/assets to go to the bball schools so they can then add a few schools(xav/day/but...) and then work with espn for a nice small tv contract for winter inventory. they also now can possibly hold msg or espn can get the acc msg and the big east barclays or something.
this whole time espn hasn't been devaluing uconn like i thought, they have quietly kept uconn relevant but held them becuase they needed uconn to give the big east its final blow and cincy comes along for the ride. with cincy in the acc check the acc on a map, it makes sense.
espn has basically helped the rise of uconn quietly and helped them position the school for the b10 while most north east schools end up in the acc. espn knows it needs to own the acc but also knows its weaker then the others and it wants the best for its home state school. as a state and school we have always been there for espn, this is there way to return the favor. we are not desperate and are going thru tough times, but it all will end up with a splash that this state will never look back from.
the b10 knows this and its why nd will not need to join the b10 for fball ever becuase the acc will live and nd will always be able to be indy in fball and have access to the bcs playoff as a open bid when it goes to 8 with 5 bids(b10/sec/[ac/b12/acc). this is why nd made the deals it did.
unreal to think i have read espn wrong this whole time but i did, glad i see it now. in the end when it looked like espn was murdering uconn the whole time, they were actually playing uconn up and letting everyone sleep on them so uconns best case can eventully come true.
b10+uva and uconn
b12+fsu and vt(the value is there and it doesn't destroy the acc at all)
pac can do what it wants
sec+down th road unc/duke
acc+cincy and down the road temple/usf
all the haves are in and no arguments can be made, things stay away from courts/govt and each conf has a ship game and its bids in tact. taking off the foil now...
-nd left before all this went down..they knew all along. mike brey jumped the gun today by saying nd was going to the acc early with others. this confirms stuff late in this post to me. espn has it planned out to work.
-clem pres dug hard and then when the backwoods of sc wasn't valueable enough he shut up and went public doing so
-fsu is stringing everyone along, now we have a bot meeting...
-both uva and vt talked a bit of nothing in the begining and now have gone quiet
-the sec is waiting on the network in janurary then we shall see about unc/duke rumors
-cincy is in the same boat as us right now so explain to me how they can #1 get TT and #2 pay him what they agreed 2? then lets talk about how they went from nothing to vocal about expansion, powerpoints and and now quiet again. espn has pumped them a bit lately also.
but while the bball split has needed to happen for ever and i'm fine with today even tho most here birthed cows, something was off about it. things seem to be very messy with how they are breaking off. why? do they create a league or disolve? they need fball votes to do that blah blah. they have decided its time to split clearly but they dont have ducks in a row, why? i think i have the answer.
everyone here know that i take what ever espn says and twist it so i can find out the truth....its my espn thing lol. zls wants to size me up a bag by now. hes a good guy...i have completely misread espn and it pains me as i put this together 2night. for a while now i have talked about the way espn pumps and dumps uconn constantly, it all made sense to me for so long. until today. the messy way to split and the conf call etc. keep in mind how quiet our school and those in politics in ct have been along this ride the past month or so. keep in mind tax cuts and any relationship they have with the state of ct and uconn from employees to land permits and everything in between.
espn has always been ok to good to uconn accept for the acc stuff was the thought i always had, pump dump value devalue....espn owns the acc but also has stake in the b12, has $ in b10 tier games and sec also once they do the secN. they want to keep the acc together but realize it will not beat the other out. they are not stupid.
temple-is a have not because they droped down and now came back up
usf is a have not its more a cusa/commuter school like the others it will be with
there are 5 schools right now that matter at all:
byu-who will soon have to join somewhere
bsu-they are the school that will rise
both of those are out west, not important for this convo
cincy- is a have school and made several moves recent to say they are but yet a ugly future perception right now
uconn-is a have in espns state
nd-becuase fball has yet to join but bball and others are in the acc
-temple and usf barely have arguments to the have vs have not, but is any 1 willing to take that to court and see?
the bball schools need 2 fball schools to blow up the big east. i think that cincy and uconn will vote with them to do so. the espn-acc contract needs to stay at 14 fball schools. i think that espn knows what the acc will become and thinks that espn is better than that. yep i just said that. so i have been misreading it all along. espn pumps then dumps uconn constantly, why? they want to always make sure uconn is relevant in the convo and then goes elsewhere for teams. espn views its state and uconn very highly to the point it wants uconn to be in a great conf that thy deserve. the b10. espn wants uconn to fit the big boy status and finally get its seat, a better seat then the acc. in the b10 uconn can have game on espn under the tier agreement espn has with the b10 and espn can enjoy its home state sucess with uconn. i can't believe i didn't see this earlier. while everyone else sleeps on uconn becuase we are new and in a far corner from where most big boy fball programs are, uconn doesn't get a lot of positive press. so espn this whole time has tried to keep uconsn name relevant by pumping and dumping. espn is quietly part of all this b10 stuff i have been talking about but i had there angle wrong.
va politics has been quiet. why? because both schools are going to get big boy seats. gtech got vocal recently and when they learned they would be left out the pres came out shot everything down and went quiet. they tried and it didn't work out for them.
when cincy and uconn vote with the bball schools this will happen
uva/uconn to the b10
cincy to the acc
now the big east fball schools go abck to a huge cusa type league whether they lead a new league or join the new cusa doesn't matter. the west schools will stay out west.
now the whole usf/temple thing comes into play. and so does vt with va politics.
vt/fsu to the b12. this does not happen until the sec makes its pick in priate that unc and duke down the road will be the ones for the secN to 16. the b12 now has enough for a conf ship game. the b10 and sec have 16 and the acc has what it needs. when this happens temple and usf go to the acc to keep them at 14.5. everything logistics wise works. the pc can make its moves but we dont care as they aren't a east coast player...
the $ angle makes sense for espn to play this out and have cincy/uconn blow up the big east with the bball onlys. espn needs the big east league/brand/assets to go to the bball schools so they can then add a few schools(xav/day/but...) and then work with espn for a nice small tv contract for winter inventory. they also now can possibly hold msg or espn can get the acc msg and the big east barclays or something.
this whole time espn hasn't been devaluing uconn like i thought, they have quietly kept uconn relevant but held them becuase they needed uconn to give the big east its final blow and cincy comes along for the ride. with cincy in the acc check the acc on a map, it makes sense.
espn has basically helped the rise of uconn quietly and helped them position the school for the b10 while most north east schools end up in the acc. espn knows it needs to own the acc but also knows its weaker then the others and it wants the best for its home state school. as a state and school we have always been there for espn, this is there way to return the favor. we are not desperate and are going thru tough times, but it all will end up with a splash that this state will never look back from.
the b10 knows this and its why nd will not need to join the b10 for fball ever becuase the acc will live and nd will always be able to be indy in fball and have access to the bcs playoff as a open bid when it goes to 8 with 5 bids(b10/sec/[ac/b12/acc). this is why nd made the deals it did.
unreal to think i have read espn wrong this whole time but i did, glad i see it now. in the end when it looked like espn was murdering uconn the whole time, they were actually playing uconn up and letting everyone sleep on them so uconns best case can eventully come true.
b10+uva and uconn
b12+fsu and vt(the value is there and it doesn't destroy the acc at all)
pac can do what it wants
sec+down th road unc/duke
acc+cincy and down the road temple/usf
all the haves are in and no arguments can be made, things stay away from courts/govt and each conf has a ship game and its bids in tact. taking off the foil now...
