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Message: [QUOTE="Tenspro2002, post: 2080303, member: 889"] This is a ridiculous straw-man that isn't within a hundred miles of the statement I made. Re-read my post. We're plummeting off the cliff of national relevance. Some of that is circumstances. Some of it is poor coaching and recruiting misfires. Whatever the reason, some of us are accepting of it. Others are not. So, you're younger than I am (again, nothing wrong with that), but somehow have more perspective than I do on the trajectory of this program, because your family has been around a while? OK, my parents were fans during the Perno era also. I take nothing for granted, but at the same time I just don't so easily accept the idea that we should give up being a perennial power as we were for nearly 2 decades. I suspect that JC, who you uphold as the gold standard of coaching and toughness, doesn't accept it so easily either. [/QUOTE]