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Why should a coach stay when he get a better offer from down the street?
 

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The 14 people watching BC football are more loyal?

Of course they are!!! Do you know how hard it is to root for BC football? It must be like fighting every natural urge in your body! I commend those 14 honorable, brave, LOYAL fans of the flying pigeons....hats off to the baker's dozen! ;)

EDIT: I mistakenly typed "honorable". That was a completely unfounded claim, and I apologize...
 

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Why should a coach stay when he get a better offer from down the street?

Does it matter if a fanbase is loyal if the offer is better?
 

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i figure this is aimed at me. if bc invited him and its equal or more money i would take it also. its a step up perception wise acc-nbe. the $ is better lets asume. hes also working under SA now and not PP and all his friends. this was my point the past couple months. we need to make change happen asap and instead we sat on our thumbs and smiled. he could have been HC half way into the season here with a little balls and vision in the AD. now hes heading north for a couple thousand more dollars. dumpster fire
 

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It was crazy to let him leave over money. Whatever BC offered, they should have offered him double. Don't lose your best coach.
 

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It was crazy to let him leave over money. Whatever BC offered, they should have offered him double. Don't lose your best coach.

yes but why would we ever offer him more $? we can't do simple things here like spell our opponets on our schedules correct. how would we be in a position of offer a better contract to him. were still working on the basics like townson vs townsen state here. jesus. if we could get over the begining stages maybe we could even offer one or both of our bball coahces contract also. but hey, i'm just dreaming. me.
 
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Nobody is more loyal than you.

i figure this is aimed at me. if bc invited him and its equal or more money i would take it also. its a step up perception wise acc-nbe. the $ is better lets asume. hes also working under SA now and not PP and all his friends. this was my point the past couple months. we need to make change happen asap and instead we sat on our thumbs and smiled. he could have been HC half way into the season here with a little balls and vision in the AD. now hes heading north for a couple thousand more dollars. dumpster fire
 

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i figure this is aimed at me.

No. If the post was titled "If a fan base is crazy..." it would be about you.

But loyalty isn't exactly your strong suit. You aren't even loyal to your own ideas for any amount of time.

But that's more funny than bad.

The idea of not spending any money on the program until you get your way (whatever it is that day) would be fatal if everyone thought that way.

Imagine if all the people who don't want PP fired, won't spend money if he is. If everyone who doesn't get their first choice for the new coach withholding their money. If everyone who doesn't like the style of play, withholds their money.

You are either in with the program or you are out, you can't be in if you get your way and out if you don't.
 

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No. If the post was titled "If a fan base is crazy..." it would be about you.

But loyalty isn't exactly your strong suit. You aren't even loyal to your own ideas for any amount of time.

But that's more funny than bad.

The idea of not spending any money on the program until you get your way (whatever it is that day) would be fatal if everyone thought that way.

Imagine if all the people who don't want PP fired, won't spend money if he is. If everyone who doesn't get their first choice for the new coach withholding their money. If everyone who doesn't like the style of play, withholds their money.

You are either in with the program or you are out, you can't be in if you get your way and out if you don't.

how am i not loyal to my own ideas? over the fall i entered a solo company contest for a tailgate package. i kept tweeting the twitter and having ppl favorite and rt my tweets and i ended up winning the contest a couple weeks ago. last week my prize came in the mail. it was so many blue solo cups i couldn't plan out how to drink out of all of them in a year. over 700 of them. 2 huge boxes. had a bunch of other things also. i then wrote up a nice letter about what blue cup nation is about, how i wanted to start a new tradition to expand off the blue theme of uconn and was very fan friendly to the topic of student drinking but also respecting the universitys ideas and rules with drinking in general. i mailed that letter and the 2 boxes to storrs on last thursday. havn't heard a word. this was my attempt at it being more than a idea. i sent them a load of blue cups to kick it off and start the tradition and culture. im not a student, so i hope they take the idea and run with it. thats my way of desperately trying to get something, anything positive going to show we have a pulse. i have tons of great ideas and thoughts. i have yet to see anything from the ath dept. i'll sit back, rip the out of them and watch ko make ward elook like a fool on my tv this winter. we are losing this ball game over and over this the idiots who are in the ath dept that i dont even know but just can tell by job performance. ko knows how to ball. so does geno, foley, hank, bazz, susan and so many more. but there are a select few here that are it up for everyone else it seems.
 
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if there was any hope of the football program being a net profit for the school, they'd hire legitimate coaches and invest capital. But given the current state and the likelihood the program is stuck in conf USA, there is no incentive to spend $$. There is probably more to incentive to cut the program entirely. IT is a losing proposition to have a football program that is not in one of the big 4-5 conferences. If the TV deal is $7M per or whatever, and you know the fan base is never going to support a medicore product (which is all you are going to get versus the 50 other schools in real conferences) then it makes sense to run it on a barebones payroll. if by chance you get invited to a real conference, you can spend the money to hire coaches and recruit.

As far as Brown and the RBs coach go, can't blame them for abandoning a sinking ship. PP is a disaster, they know that, and the program may be headed to oblivion. Brown is old, he should take whatever $$ and security he can find. there is none of that at Uconn
 

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how am i not loyal to my own ideas? over the fall i entered a solo company contest for a tailgate package. i kept tweeting the twitter and having ppl favorite and rt my tweets and i ended up winning the contest a couple weeks ago. last week my prize came in the mail. it was so many blue solo cups i couldn't plan out how to drink out of all of them in a year. over 700 of them. 2 huge boxes. had a bunch of other things also. i then wrote up a nice letter about what blue cup nation is about, how i wanted to start a new tradition to expand off the blue theme of uconn and was very fan friendly to the topic of student drinking but also respecting the universitys ideas and rules with drinking in general. i mailed that letter and the 2 boxes to storrs on last thursday. havn't heard a word. this was my attempt at it being more than a idea. i sent them a **** load of blue cups to kick it off and start the tradition and culture. im not a student, so i hope they take the idea and run with it. thats my way of desperately trying to get something, anything positive going to show we have a pulse. i have tons of great ideas and thoughts. i have yet to see anything from the ath dept. i'll sit back, rip the **** out of them and watch ko make ward elook like a fool on my tv this winter. we are losing this ball game over and over this the idiots who are in the ath dept that i dont even know but just can tell by job performance. ko knows how to ball. so does geno, foley, hank, bazz, susan and so many more. but there are a select few here that are ****ing it up for everyone else it seems.

I remember you saying you would NOT finacially support the program until you got your way.

(Money is actually a bigger deal in todays world than the color of cups. FYI)

I guess you found out that holding your breath and stamping your feet didn't work, so you escalated.

Thank goodness the average UCONN fan has more backbone than you. Thank God.
 
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How many "average" UConn fans are looking forward to another exciting year of PP leadership there, SD? Guarantee it's not even a quarter of the 22.5K who bought season tickets this year. As said before the only reason that number isn't going to plummet is because of Michigan/Maryland - which I suspect was an important factor in not canning PP.

The premise of this thread implies that "loyal" fans must keep watching, paying for season tickets and not question anything the AD or coaches do (or don't do) to prove their "loyalty". Just show up and keep any negative thoughts to yourself. Keep waving the pom-poms on every single first-down dive up the middle. Our most productive coach - the one who produced the best results and got quite a bit of "loyalty"from this board - is leaving because he knows his former boss is a dead man walking and that his bosses aren't making the "adjustments" the program needed.

Be careful about the "loyalty" lectures. Ive been coming to UConn football games since the late 1980s, had season tickets starting in the mid-1990s. I renewed because I didn't have to worry that the program was moving forward, even in the crappy 1999-2000-2001 seasons when I went to every game. Most people see this is on a backslide initiated by the Hathaway hire of PP, and continuing under the passive leadership of herbst-manuel-trustees. I'll root for UConn, but when it comes to hard-earned dollars in a tough economy, I'd rather put in the hands of people who are going to make productive use of it. That is not happening now.
 

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The premise of this thread implies that "loyal" fans must keep watching, paying for season tickets and not question anything the AD or coaches do (or don't do) to prove their "loyalty". Just show up and keep any negative thoughts to yourself. Keep waving the pom-poms on every single first-down dive up the middle.

That would be a good start. And spend more money on tickets if you can. And talk up the program to everyone you meet.

That would all help.

If you can't and have to go negative, then just don't pretend you aren't hurting the program because you are.
 

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That would be a good start. And spend more money on tickets if you can. And talk up the program to everyone you meet.

That would all help.

If you can't and have to go negative, then just don't pretend you aren't hurting the program because you are.

Ten toes in.
 
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How many "average" UConn fans are looking forward to another exciting year of PP leadership there, SD? Guarantee it's not even a quarter of the 22.5K who bought season tickets this year. As said before the only reason that number isn't going to plummet is because of Michigan/Maryland - which I suspect was an important factor in not canning PP.

The premise of this thread implies that "loyal" fans must keep watching, paying for season tickets and not question anything the AD or coaches do (or don't do) to prove their "loyalty". Just show up and keep any negative thoughts to yourself. Keep waving the pom-poms on every single first-down dive up the middle. Our most productive coach - the one who produced the best results and got quite a bit of "loyalty"from this board - is leaving because he knows his former boss is a dead man walking and that his bosses aren't making the "adjustments" the program needed.

Be careful about the "loyalty" lectures. Ive been coming to UConn football games since the late 1980s, had season tickets starting in the mid-1990s. I renewed because I didn't have to worry that the program was moving forward, even in the crappy 1999-2000-2001 seasons when I went to every game. Most people see this is on a backslide initiated by the Hathaway hire of PP, and continuing under the passive leadership of herbst-manuel-trustees. I'll root for UConn, but when it comes to hard-earned dollars in a tough economy, I'd rather put in the hands of people who are going to make productive use of it. That is not happening now.

You're being lectured by someone who supported Hathaway and ripped Edsall every chance he got. So.........
 

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You're being lectured by someone who supported Hathaway and ripped Edsall every chance he got. So.........

Jimmy - if you want to be critical of me, stick to the truth.

Or if you are committed to lying, be more creative. Like, I used to be in the Taliban or some such sh##t
 

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I remember you saying you would NOT finacially support the program until you got your way.

(Money is actually a bigger deal in todays world than the color of cups. FYI)

I guess you found out that holding your breath and stamping your feet didn't work, so you escalated.

Thank goodness the average UCONN fan has more backbone than you. Thank God.

yea money and cups are not on the same level at all. im not a idiot. i didn't give them 1 washington. i sent them a idea and some sups. how is that a financial win for uconn? are they going to turn around and sell them on the streets of hartford for 20 cents each or something?
 
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if there was any hope of the football program being a net profit for the school, they'd hire legitimate coaches and invest capital. But given the current state and the likelihood the program is stuck in conf USA, there is no incentive to spend $$. There is probably more to incentive to cut the program entirely. IT is a losing proposition to have a football program that is not in one of the big 4-5 conferences. If the TV deal is $7M per or whatever, and you know the fan base is never going to support a medicore product (which is all you are going to get versus the 50 other schools in real conferences) then it makes sense to run it on a barebones payroll. if by chance you get invited to a real conference, you can spend the money to hire coaches and recruit.

As far as Brown and the RBs coach go, can't blame them for abandoning a sinking ship. PP is a disaster, they know that, and the program may be headed to oblivion. Brown is old, he should take whatever $$ and security he can find. there is none of that at Uconn
Great insight in your comments. Well said.
 
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If a fan base has no loyalty it's up to the athletic department to create that loyalty.
 
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