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Message: [QUOTE="mauconnfan, post: 3087756, member: 489"] Yeah agree 68. when I'm at the 180-200 point on a long 4 or 5 I have to feel really good to hit my 3 or 4 hybrid or I lay up. I was so inconsistent with my 4 wood I yanked it out of the bag and started the 19,22,25 hybrid deal. No woods other than driver occasionally can get home on short par 5's when tee game is good but at the same time feel like my wedge game is good enough to have a birdie putt most every time. You kjnow we have to adjust to our age unfortunately! LOL.....hit'em good 68! [/QUOTE]