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1. Kayla McBride is a darn good ballplayer
2. UConn made an admirable comeback
3. Notre Dame either scored or got a very good look on every out of bounds play
4. Skylar Diggins, again, was not stellar, but made the shots/plays when they were essential
5. UConn's last legitimate possession was heartbreaking, but I have few problems with the decisions that were made and take exception with a few criticisms.
a. Kelly Faris adroitly got to the rim, but did not quite have the repertoire to finish. She, alertly, corralled the rebound and was in the process of pulling the ball out and setting up for another attempt at victory when the officials stopped play to check the shot clock. It is not the offcials fault for stopping the game at this point. they are required to do so. If anyone is to blame here, it is the shot clock official; And, by rule, time is not put back on the clock.
b. After the timeout Kelly Faris inbounded the ball with a long lob to Breanna Stewart. There was some criticism about this decision with the felling that Kelly should have passed the ball to Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis at the top of the key. True, KML was open, but she would have caught the pass at least 8 feet behind the three point arc; Certainly not in a good scoring position. Secondly, the long lob pass was not a bad pass and the catch was not that great a catch; Relatively routine.
c. The out of bounds play, itself, was very well conceived and should have led to a layup. The execution, though, lacked precision. Either Stefanie Dolson did not come out high enough to set the pick, or Stewart started her move a tad too early and could not get close enough to Dolson to rub her defender off. The slightest contact would have created enough separation to free Stewart for the layup. As it was, Notre Dame had the play well defended, but not because they were alert and communicating well.
d. It would have taken a darn good play for Stewart to create a scoring opportunity off of that inbound. With the time remaining, there was no need to force the issue, so I have no problem with Stewart's decision to bring the ball out and reset.
e. There was considerable criticism of Caoch Auriemma for not taking a timeout at some point during this possession. If a timeout was going to be called, this was the time to call it. However, the ball is now back in Kelly Faris' hands. If you cannot trust Faris, whom can you trust? Especially after she had just previously gotten to the rim relatively easily.
f. Now, things start falling apart as Faris, again, tries to get to the rim. Notre Dame, tot heir credit defended this quite well. Faris ran her defender off of Dolson and encountered two other Notre Dame defenders as she drove to the hoop.
g. Kelly is now airborne with limited options(no problem, things like this happen), and fires a pass to the left corner for KML that carried KMl out of bounds. A few years ago, KML would have been able to call a timeout and retain possession. However, that rule was changed, so her only choice was to try to heave it out to halfcourt to keep the play alive. A few feet farther out, and UConn retains possession. As it was, Diggins intercepts the pass. Again, I have few to no problems with the decisions made. Stuff happens.
h. I did not clearly see Bria Hartley foul Diggins three times, but she clearly fouled Diggins on the right side just beyond the halfcourt line. There was no call, but that is to be expected, and will be addressed again.
i. My only major complaint comes with how Notre Dame scored the layup. Notre Dame ended up with a 5 on 1 with Achonwa eventually scoring. but Diggins could have passed to any of four teammates and the result would have been the same, a layup. Achonwa defended Faris on the baseline and had taken a step out of bounds, then sprinted to the other end for a layup. Notre Dame comes down 5 on 1 and Achonwa scores a layup. I have major problems with that scenario. That should never, ever happen. I can recall Tina Charles getting vehemently yanked out of a game, never to return, for a similar transgression against the US Olympic Team. A 5 on 1 opportunity at that point in the game SHOULD NEVER EVER HAPPEN.
j. Getting back to the no call- Considering the overwhelming numbers Notre Dame had when Hartley fouled Diggins as she crossed the mid court stripe, would not the officials have been obliged to call an intentional foul there had they blown their whistles? Thereby awarding Notre Dame two shots and the ball? If so, the no-call, was most judicious.
 

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It is the official's responsibility. Just not the on court officials' responsibility. The on court officials did exactly what they are supposed to do.

Still it was an official who screwed up.
 
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It is the official's responsibility. Just not the on court officials' responsibility. The on court officials did exactly what they are supposed to do.

Exactly.
 

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I was at the game but can't come to watching it on my dvr... disappointing loss if you was in the arena
 
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A lot of good points in your post - but inbounding the ball with 17 seconds left in a tie game, you shouldn't be trying to throw it in to anyone in good scoring position. You should just be getting it inbounds and running clock, getting into your set, and going.

The men vs. Pitt in 2011 had the exact same time, exact same location, exact same situation and did it right. Get it in, get the ball in the right person's hands, take your time, get a shot up right before the buzzer. Ballgame. Pitt never got their hands on it. Kemba could have missed, of course, but at least the worst case is overtime. Scoring off the inbounds pass shouldn't be in any way part of the thought process in that last timeout.

Kelly then started to attack too soon, but I can't fault Geno there - if she had blown by everyone for a layup and he asked for timeout to nullify the play, it would have been a "whoops" moment. In hindsight, obviously, on the KML catch we needed to be screaming for one.
 
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A lot of good points in your post - but inbounding the ball with 17 seconds left in a tie game, you shouldn't be trying to throw it in to anyone in good scoring position. You should just be getting it inbounds and running clock, getting into your set, and going.

The men vs. Pitt in 2011 had the exact same time, exact same location, exact same situation and did it right. Get it in, get the ball in the right person's hands, take your time, get a shot up right before the buzzer. Ballgame. Pitt never got their hands on it. Kemba could have missed, of course, but at least the worst case is overtime. Scoring off the inbounds pass shouldn't be in any way part of the thought process in that last timeout.

Kelly then started to attack too soon, but I can't fault Geno there - if she had blown by everyone for a layup and he asked for timeout to nullify the play, it would have been a "whoops" moment. In hindsight, obviously, on the KML catch we needed to be screaming for one.

Scream all we want, that timeout would not have been granted.
 
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Uconn lost because they can't dribble. Chase them off 3 point line, and crowd Dolson outside and they get in trouble and turn the ball over. ND scored 10 "free" points on pure miss dribbles (Hartley) or "let me get the ball out of my hands even though there is no chance for a successful pass" (Dolson, Faris).
The most simple aspect of the game, moving to a better offensive position on the floor through the dribble, Uconn players can't do.
Doty spent 30 games as a starter at point guard and now gets Heather minutes, it took the second ND game for a coach who has seen her for 5 years to determine that she "doesn't manage the game" that will allow Uconn to win.
The team knows the "June Taylor Dance Routine" well enough now, spend all your practice time now practicing dribbling. Not a single player except MJ can make a move to the basket from outside the 3 point line, and then either continue, change direction or make inside pass as defense allows.
 

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Uconn lost because they can't dribble. Chase them off 3 point line, and crowd Dolson outside and they get in trouble and turn the ball over. ND scored 10 "free" points on pure miss dribbles (Hartley) or "let me get the ball out of my hands even though there is no chance for a successful pass" (Dolson, Faris).
The most simple aspect of the game, moving to a better offensive position on the floor through the dribble, Uconn players can't do.
Doty spent 30 games as a starter at point guard and now gets Heather minutes, it took the second ND game for a coach who has seen her for 5 years to determine that she "doesn't manage the game" that will allow Uconn to win.
The team knows the "June Taylor Dance Routine" well enough now, spend all your practice time now practicing dribbling. Not a single player except MJ can make a move to the basket from outside the 3 point line, and then either continue, change direction or make inside pass as defense allows.
Holy Cow that UConn team really sucks......and the coach too!
 
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In tepid defense of Caroline, she is certainly a good enough manager of UConn's offense against most teams UConn faces. However, against the more agressive defenses, she is going to struggle for reasons you mentioned that, surprisingly, I find myself in agreement. It has been mentioned before how much in love with the three this team has become. But why not, with the best three point shooter in the country.

Just a thought - Maybe UConn geared their present outside shooting dependent offense with Baylor in mind. Maybe next year with Griner's eligibility exhausted, the guards will initiate more forceful penetration into the paint.
 

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Holy Cow that UConn team really sucks......and the coach too!





Seems to me some interesting points, perhaps a little over the top, worthy of more than mere degradation
 

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Seems to me some interesting points, perhaps a little over the top, worthy of more than mere degradation

I assume you meant "denigration" not "degradation" but I digress.

I've seen those points from this poster before but that is not my issue. I have lots of issue with snide "denigration" of the UConn players over and over again.

ND scored 10 "free" points on pure miss dribbles (Hartley)




let me get the ball out of my hands even though there is no chance for a successful pass" (Dolson, Faris)


it took the second ND game for a coach who has seen her for 5 years to determine that she "doesn't manage the game"

That is denigrating the players and the coach, not making interesting points.

These are some of the best of the best Women's college basketball players in the country. They make mistakes. The coaches make mistakes. Fine. Critique the players and the team. But, I'm running out of patience with this childish "denigration" that seems to somehow give some sense of satisfaction to some posters.

Is that the denigration you were talking about?
 

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Please excuse my verbal confusion.
I agree with all your points except one.
I try not to go after the players, maybe never.
If I have, I agree that's it's in the worst of taste.
But I've also become a bit over-sensitive about pot shots at posters, hence my kneejerk.

The point about Caroline is not a one-shot coaches mistake but is (seemingly, perhaps) the result of a certain stubbornness and (dare I say) rigidity. And if the quoted segment is indeed a quote and not taken out of context (I didn't see it),
then it is coach throwing Caroline under the bus at the conclusion of a season in which it was clear long ago that her body was not owning up to the responsibilities placed on it and that the only logical alternative would have been to advance Mo Jeff's graduate studies in running the team.
 
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Uconn lost because they can't dribble. Chase them off 3 point line, and crowd Dolson outside and they get in trouble and turn the ball over. ND scored 10 "free" points on pure miss dribbles (Hartley) or "let me get the ball out of my hands even though there is no chance for a successful pass" (Dolson, Faris).
The most simple aspect of the game, moving to a better offensive position on the floor through the dribble, Uconn players can't do.
Doty spent 30 games as a starter at point guard and now gets Heather minutes, it took the second ND game for a coach who has seen her for 5 years to determine that she "doesn't manage the game" that will allow Uconn to win.
The team knows the "June Taylor Dance Routine" well enough now, spend all your practice time now practicing dribbling. Not a single player except MJ can make a move to the basket from outside the 3 point line, and then either continue, change direction or make inside pass as defense allows.

I'm glad you said except MJ...I was afraid you weird becoming a little negative...
 
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In tepid defense of Caroline, she is certainly a good enough manager of UConn's offense against most teams UConn faces. However, against the more agressive defenses, she is going to struggle for reasons you mentioned that, surprisingly, I find myself in agreement. It has been mentioned before how much in love with the three this team has become. But why not, with the best three point shooter in the country.

Just a thought - Maybe UConn geared their present outside shooting dependent offense with Baylor in mind. Maybe next year with Griner's eligibility exhausted, the guards will initiate more forceful penetration into the paint.

Caroline can't take the nonstop fouling allowed in certain games without too much risk...why she should is beyond me...in the rugby matches we need the Ruggers no big mystery...
 

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In tepid defense of Caroline, she is certainly a good enough manager of UConn's offense against most teams UConn faces. However, against the more agressive defenses, she is going to struggle for reasons you mentioned that, surprisingly, I find myself in agreement. It has been mentioned before how much in love with the three this team has become. But why not, with the best three point shooter in the country.

Just a thought - Maybe UConn geared their present outside shooting dependent offense with Baylor in mind. Maybe next year with Griner's eligibility exhausted, the guards will initiate more forceful penetration into the paint.

But having the best three point shooter in the country doesn't mean that the team should be in love with the three. The rest of the team is 32.6% for the year, below Baylor (36.1%), which is known as a poor three point shooting team.

Three pointers are harder to hit at the end of a game, which is when UCONN should pound the ball into Dolson and Stewart, and even KML. Stewart is ineffective from three point range this season so she should be closer to the basket where she is effective.
 
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1. Kayla McBride is a darn good ballplayer
3. Notre Dame either scored or got a very good look on every out of bounds play
It's no coincidence that McBride scored off almost all of the OOB plays.
 
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But having the best three point shooter in the country doesn't mean that the team should be in love with the three. The rest of the team is 32.6% for the year, below Baylor (36.1%), which is known as a poor three point shooting team.

Three pointers are harder to hit at the end of a game, which is when UCONN should pound the ball into Dolson and Stewart, and even KML. Stewart is ineffective from three point range this season so she should be closer to the basket where she is effective.

Thanx for bringing that 3 point stat to my attention.

I know of very few teams at any level that throw the ball inside on critical last second possessions. It is almost always put into the hands of a playmaking guard or forward. One might recall the 2002 national championship game against Oklahoma. Cash, Jones, and Williams were having stellar games offensively. Bird and Taurasi were subpar. Still, when UConn had the ball up six with Oklahoma showing late game life with about 1:30 to go, Coach Auriemma gave the ball to Diana Taurasi.
 
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It's no coincidence that McBride scored off almost all of the OOB plays.

Diggins also had a very good look late in the game with the score tied. For whatever reason, Hartley jumped out on McBride, leaving Diggins all alone to receive the return pass from Achonwa. Yes, I am aware these young ladies were probably not born at the time, but the last few seconds of UConn-Duke 1990 should be required viewing.
 
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