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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 3484712, member: 153"] This is so dumb. Villanova is up and down like any other top program. I opened by asking what the term "always" meant. There are only 3 "always" programs in the nation. All the other top schools, like Michigan St. or North Carolina, are up and down. Villanova has has down stretches. All you have to do is look back at it and see this is absolutely true. I asked what was meant, and he wrote competing for F4s and NCs. Only 2 or 3 schools do that. Come on, be real. [/QUOTE]