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Message: [QUOTE="mauconnfan, post: 2081464, member: 489"] I am right and you're right, it is scary. You would think mostly any decent player would improve over 4 years just alone, without coaching. Playing 125 games and summers you should improve, he's just one of those guys. Kind of laugh now when he's flailing around under the hoop trying to box out and they're already going the other way with it. Love the kids attitude, but just a waste of breath teaching the young man, still gets only one of 3 jump hooks to the rim. Now we have Steve who can't really do much on the defensive end as we speak, but has shown some offensive skills. But he also is short on the natural instincts required to play good defense, be a thought or 2 ahead of the play to make up for slower feet. It's all scary, I admit that. [/QUOTE]