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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2349209, member: 488"] The times would make more sense if it was 3.4 miles. We also don't really know how hilly the route is - I'm assuming this is being run across campus and not on a track. Last year I made fun of people that were concerned about the times, but then they came out and lost to Wagner and Northesatern, got absolutely boatraced out of the gate by faster OSU and Oregon teams, and struggled all year with the kind of mistakes that are generally associated with fatigue. Yeah they had seven players, but Adams looked out of shape all year, especially at the beginning. I also question what kind of shape Durham and Enoch were in. I don't know whether it was on the strength and conditioning coach or players just not being motivated, but you get the sense that conditioning was a problem last year and it's hard to envision Russ Smith or Peyton Siva running the 5k in 26 minutes or whatever the hell Jalen put in. [/QUOTE]