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Message: [QUOTE="Tenspro2002, post: 2968952, member: 889"] There are a lot of valid points of view here. I see it as follows: A coach's performance and responsibility falls into a few different areas that basically form a pyramid. 1) At the bottom is effort and toughness. 2) Above that is general basketball IQ. 3) At the top is specific X's and O's sets and execution. You need #1 before you can coach #2, and you need both of those before you can instill #3. Ollie was an abject failure at all of them. Hurley has clearly been emphasizing #1, and succeeding. He has the guys playing hard when they were used to rolling over at the sign of adversity. Now he needs to shift gears and coach up the team in terms of basketball IQ. Unfortunately, some of this is innate -- and KO didn't necessarily recruit for this, so a lot of the holdovers are lacking. And some of it can be eroded by bad habits that have accumulated over the last few years. But while Hurley has generally been positive so far as long as guys have been showing effort, he needs to start cracking down on the low-IQ play, dumb turnovers, carelessness with the ball, getting lost on defense, over-helping/switching, etc. Bringing in new players next year will help, but he needs to start showing something in the basketball IQ area this year as well. Coaching intensity isn't enough. [/QUOTE]