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Message: [QUOTE="Blue Blood, post: 4634362, member: 5907"] These types of comments by Hurley are what builds a program are we NC Champ contenders with Andre and Newton on board yes, are we contenders without them maybe but probably not. This is the culture though Calhoun was so successful in the 2000s because he was honest with his players in the 90s and that pipeline to the NBA got built. We won't make a FF every year but a coach players trust will make us like Michigan St was for so many years at least 1 FF every 4 years the difference is we win when we get there. [/QUOTE]