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Hurley needs to START BOTH Johnson and Reed even when Karaban comes back.

We hadn’t seen it since Whaley and Carlton started together. It was out of necessity then and it was necessary last night with Karaban out, but it worked.

What do people think of a lineup of Diarra / Liam / Alex / Samson / Reed to mix things up going forward? Do we see more of the double big?
 
Well, it's situational.

When they lost Roach to the bench with an injury, and Edgecombe did not play, Baylor was down both starting guards. Their bigs were still working the paint, so Reed, Jr. and Johnson were both in to try and stop Omier and co from post play since our guards could handle the replacements.

They need to lear each other's spacing when both are playing bc at least to me it was a little awkward with both getting in each other's way of rebounding. Short lived as Johnson fouled out but we will see this again should oppositional post play bother Hurley.
 
I feel like the double bigs move by Hurley last night was more an audible call more than something that might be deployed more often in the future. Baylor was playing multiple bigs due to injuries, so Hurley countered by playing Samson and Tarris together. I don't think it's something we'll see a lot of moving forward except in specific situations.
 
Well, it's situational.

When they lost Roach to the bench with an injury, and Edgecombe did not play, Baylor was down both starting guards. Their bigs were still working the paint, so Reed, Jr. and Johnson were both in to try and stop Omier and co from post play since our guards could handle the replacements.

They need to lear each other's spacing when both are playing bc at least to me it was a little awkward with both getting in each other's way of rebounding. Short lived as Johnson fouled out but we will see this again should oppositional post play bother Hurley.
I agree last night it looked like that but it's more viable than we may think. I look at it logically:
1) the staff wouldn't trot out a 2 big set in such an important game if they had never run it in practice
2) Edgecombe was a game time decision and Roach went out mid game
3) The staff worked on this set for a reason. it worked last night and can work again. No reason to think it can't

It may not be our every game set. But in order to "riff" well, you practice it all the time. You can't be a good improv soloist unless you practice that scale over and over, it sure looks like improv but it ain't.
 
It was just a stopgap measure for last night, but wouldn't expect to see it again going forward besides maybe an opportunistic look or change-up for a few minutes situationally.

Heck, if we went forward with that strategy in Big East games, we'd end up having to use Ross at Center by the 8 min remaining mark on the road due to fouls. :)
 
Huh? I know limited and situational, but we don't have to back to Whaley and Carlton. We say double bigs with Adama/Donovan/Samson combos.
 
Like it. Situational. However, if 1 fouls with both on the floor we have an issue. Sampson’s fouling really limits this.
 
Baylor plays two bigs in certain lineups I think. Hurley just matched up. I don't see this being a "thing" but you never know he might trot it out again.
 
Baylor plays two bigs in certain lineups I think. Hurley just matched up. I don't see this being a "thing" but you never know he might trot it out again.
Yeah we had to with Omier/Ojainwuna playing together and no Karaban. Normally, those 2 play together for a few minutes and then they bring in Celestine or go 4 guard with Edgecombe/Love at the 4. But Baylor had to play them more together with Edgecombe out and Celestine in severe foul trouble (3 fouls in 1st, fouled out in 5 min in 2nd).

Hurley was smart and put Samson/Reed on Omier and our wing/4 on Ojianwuna when we had only 1 big in + Stewart, despite Ojianwuna being 3+ inches taller. But yeah it made sense to double up the bigs against their personnel. It also helped clog up the paint since we were forcing Baylor into doing a ton of driving by not helping off shooters much.
 
Well, it's situational.

When they lost Roach to the bench with an injury, and Edgecombe did not play, Baylor was down both starting guards. Their bigs were still working the paint, so Reed, Jr. and Johnson were both in to try and stop Omier and co from post play since our guards could handle the replacements.

They need to lear each other's spacing when both are playing bc at least to me it was a little awkward with both getting in each other's way of rebounding. Short lived as Johnson fouled out but we will see this again should oppositional post play bother Hurley.
I agree last night it looked like that but it's more viable than we may think. I look at it logically:
1) the staff wouldn't trot out a 2 big set in such an important game if they had never run it in practice
2) Edgecombe was a game time decision and Roach went out mid game
3) The staff worked on this set for a reason. it worked last night and can work again. No reason to think it can't.

They may never use it again (I'll bet my kids that they do)

These are 2 very athletic bigs, and nether of them play like whaley or Carlton or Clingan.
 

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