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Message: [QUOTE="MD#12Fan, post: 3823136, member: 8636"] Really good post! Over my head! I've always wondered at what point a team establishes its credentials by which wins and losses are evaluated. Like the SEC in football. Is Miss St really that much better than Wake Forest or say Washington St? When is that initial judgement made. After a couple of meaningless "warmup games", the teams start playing each other and chi-ching establishing credentials from playing other teams in the league. Recently the Pac 10 in football has been virtually slighted. With their style of play being a bit different, who's to say that the SEC is that much better than the Pac !0. Some person has to enter into the data base some initial information, then decisions can be made based on that. What is a strength of schedule if nobody knows how good anyone is. [/QUOTE]