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Message: [QUOTE="Umami Zen, post: 3833930, member: 10678"] Fascinating. Never seen. Serious question. What would you use this for that you don't have in your inventory as an alternative? You're obviously a passionate chef who is a student of the "game". All good. Have a friend who is a meat guy. He has come up with a swinging grill over a log fire. The swinging grill is attached to a branch of a tree by a chain. The meat is always in motion because of the swinging grill. He has told me it's origin is Polish. But it works for a lot of meats. You could easily replace the tree branch with a iron teepee type configuration with the grill hanging from it. Will wait to share with you what a butcher told me once about his favorite way to tenderize red meat. [/QUOTE]