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Message: [QUOTE="Matrim55, post: 4636946, member: 3376"] 10,000-point scorers in NBA history: Kentucky: 13 (1 20k scorer) Duke: 12 (0 20k scorers) UNC: 16 (3 20k scorers) Indiana: 7 (1 20k scorer) Kansas: 9 (2 20k scorers) UCLA: 14 (3 20k scorers) UConn: 9 (1 20k scorer) Louisville: 4 (0 20k scorers) Villanova: 2 (0 20k scorers) Georgetown: 6 (2 20k scorers) Syracuse: 3 (1 20k scorer) Michigan State: 7 (0 20k scorers) LSU: 3 (2 20k scorers) Texas: 2 (BOTH are 20k scorers) Arizona: 7 (0 20k scorers) Ohio State: 7 (1 20k scorer) Marquette: 4 (1 20k scorer) Houston: 4 (3 20k scorers... lmao) Michigan: 7 (0 20k scorers) Florida: 5 (0 20k scorers) Points aren't everything, of course, but they tend to be a good measure of how long a guy stays in the league, and guys tend to stay in the league a long time because they're good. There are outliers, naturally (Victor Oladipo's probably a starter for Indiana; Draymond is unquestionably a starter for Michigan State, and neither guy will end up with 10k points), but for the most part the above list tells a pretty accurate tale. Anyway, here's the breakdown: 1. UCLA would curb stomp all comers. They're the clear No. 1. 2. UNC, Kansas, Kentucky & Duke are the next tier. 3. We're in the next group. I honestly think we've got an argument to be at the top of it, but man we've got to start putting elite players into the league again. EDIT: And one point I've made elsewhere... Calhoun recognized the pace & space era early and recruited towards it (wings who could shoot, bigs who could run). Basically everybody we put into the league from Cliff to Rudy would be 20% better -- including guys like Travis & Smitty -- in today's game. Zero other programs can say the same other than maybe Villanova. EDIT2: Just realized I really underrated Michigan State's team of Magic, Jason Richardson, Steve Smith, ZBo & Dray with guys like Scott Skiles, Kevin Willis, Jared Jackson, Gary Harris & Mo Pete off the bench. They're in that second tier with Duke, UNC, KU & UK. [/QUOTE]

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