How many bids is the Big East getting this year?

[shizzle787]

This is my handicap of the situation:

NCAA locks: UConn, Marquette, Creighton
Should be there: St. John's, Xavier
Have a chance to be there: Providence, Seton Hall, Villanova
Need to win auto-bid: Butler, Georgetown
No hope: DePaul

My official prediction is five: UConn, Marquette, Creighton, St. John's, and Xavier.

The Big East plays a significantly weaker OOC than last year (due to losing the Gavitt Games) so every Quad 4 loss is going to sting even more.

 

[nycscooby]

Less than they deserve, guaranteed!

 

[Austin316]

Typical committee… they undervalue the Big East. My guess is top 3 get in. 4 and 5 are on bubble and get shafted but the outsiders/fans look at them as locks and throw fists in air.

 

[caw]

Not for nothing but Marquette as a lock seems a stretch.

 

[Kenny11]

I’m not sure why Hurley voted them number 1 in the conference. Either he sees something or it was his way of punting on the vote.

 

[prankster]

BE, some years, eats it's own.

Big powerhouses at the top can mean a lot of losses for the middle teams in the standings.

And the top 3 are pretty tough outs this year.

Folks are going to have to solidify themselves pretty hard with their OOC schedules, if they want to go to the dance.

4 to 5 teams in, probably. More than that, their OOC better be impressive.

 

[ucp990411]

Not for nothing but Marquette as a lock seems a stretch.

I agree and I think Xavier and Providence are being underrated

 

[navery12]

Not for nothing but Marquette as a lock seems a stretch.

Marquette is a lock, they're a really really good team

 

[StllH8L8ner]

3, they’ll deserve 4-5, Val will send a blast about how great the NCAA selection committee is. Nothing to see here.

F Duke

 

[superjohn]

6

 

[SportsFan88]

Marquette is absolutely a tournament team and probably a top 5 to 6 seed at that

 

[Hunt for 7]

I’m not sure why Hurley voted them number 1 in the conference. Either he sees something or it was his way of punting on the vote.

Coach to coach respect. Shaka is high level as is McDermott. I think Hurley likes Shaka.

 

[HooperScooper]

Coach to coach respect. Shaka is high level as is McDermott. I think Hurley likes Shaka.

Except when he's on the court as a 6th defender.

 

[formerlurker]

Surprisingly, Butler will be there.

 

[caw]

Marquette is a lock, they're a really really good team

I think they probably will be a tournament team but they look more like a 8-10 seed than a 5 seed, or higher, but that's just my opinion on them. I guess I might be a tad stricter on what I consider a lock.

 

[Ricker]

In the season prediction thread most responses seem to see us as 15-5 or so in the Big East. That means a couple of toe stubs that aren't Creighton. If we have done our job in the 'out of conference', those wins should be big resume boosters for the Big East teams that knock us off. We have only lost to Kansas at Kansas in the last 2 years and must be about 33-1. If we go 9-2 or better that is 42-3 over 3 years out of conference entering the 2025 tourney. A PC, Nova, St Johns, win over us, may be the resume difference vs other bubble teams. So, I think there is a good case 6 may get there.

 

[navery12]

I think they probably will be a tournament team but they look more like a 8-10 seed than a 5 seed, or higher, but that's just my opinion on them. I guess I might be a tad stricter on what I consider a lock.

I think that's just a wildly wrong view on them as a team and their players. If you think they're an 8-10 seed I agree that's not a lock, but that's a <1% outcome for their roster

 

[RuffRuff]

I think that's just a wildly wrong view on them as a team and their players. If you think they're an 8-10 seed I agree that's not a lock, but that's a <1% outcome for their roster

Cam Jones is AA caliber and they have a ton of continuity. Easily at a top 25 team. I see five firmly, with maybe a fringe 6th team. It won’t be Nova.

 

[auror]

I think that's just a wildly wrong view on them as a team and their players. If you think they're an 8-10 seed I agree that's not a lock, but that's a <1% outcome for their roster

Kam is a stud, but....Joplin regressed. Mitchell is one dimensional. Gold is bad on D. Jones is injured. Owens is a freshman outside the top 50.

They need Chase Ross to take a real leap to become the 2nd banana. Their season hinges on that. He hasn't shown the skill level yet.

 

[Tiamat7]

This is my handicap of the situation:

NCAA locks: UConn, Marquette, Creighton
Should be there: St. John's, Xavier
Have a chance to be there: Providence, Seton Hall, Villanova
Need to win auto-bid: Butler, Georgetown
No hope: DePaul

My official prediction is five: UConn, Marquette, Creighton, St. John's, and Xavier.

The Big East plays a significantly weaker OOC than last year (due to losing the Gavitt Games) so every Quad 4 loss is going to sting even more.

I largely agree with this. Same 5.

I think Xavier has a chance to be quite good, pending the health of Freemantle and Hunter. Perhaps better than Marquette and Creighton. St John's should be a 5 to 7 seed in the tournament under Pitino in year 2. Creighton's ceiling depends on whether the European pro Fedor is cleared to play.

I see high variance outcomes for Seton Hall and Butler. Butler could be a bubble team if they figure out their point guard situation. Seton Hall will always play defense under Sha, but can they generate sufficient offense? Losing Dre Davis was devasting in this regard.

PC and Villanova could be bubble teams, though there are serious concerns about each (Hopkins' health; Neptune's competency).

Georgetown will show some improvement, but I can't believe they didn't pay NIL for a proven big. And they lost Supreme Cook. Relying on a stable of unproven bigs is not going to cut it in the Big East (though Cooley and company are telling people that Sorber is the real deal).

At least DePaul has a decent coaching staff now.

 

[caw]

I think that's just a wildly wrong view on them as a team and their players. If you think they're an 8-10 seed I agree that's not a lock, but that's a <1% outcome for their roster

Well, agree to disagree. I'd be more than happy to be wrong though.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I could be wrong but I believe part of the answer (how many bids) will br partly dependent on which schools are on the fence and what credibility they have from the past couple of years. If Creighton or Marquette are amoung six to eight schools in contentention for the last three or four spots there is a far better chance of getting picked than St John's, Seton Hall, Xavier or Providence.

The conference as a whole (Excluding us) is deliberately being somewhat discounted but the three schools who made last year's tournament have a strong enough recent track record where we cannot be discounted at all and the other two can only be slightly discounted.