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Message: [QUOTE="freescooter, post: 4079427, member: 1023"] I do think the conference issue is a legitimate problem. Then again, Liberty is making it work. Army is. BYU made it work, though they clearly have some history we lack. So it can happen. To me the goal is generally a top 50ish program with occasional top 25 runs. 7-5, 8-4 seasons with the odd 5-7 and 10-2 thrown in. Win 50% of the mid-tier P5 games, BC, NCState, Syracuse, Indiana type games and an occasional buy game if the opponent is having a down year. I also think it is pretty tough to evaluate our talent right now. Coaching can Make adequate talent perform at a higher level. Honestly, that was Edsall I. I will also say that once Edsall left, any chance of righting the ship this season pretty much went out the window. I am not for a minute saying he would or could have done it. Just that once he left, it was pretty much impossible with an acting head coach. The injury to the frosh quarterback kind of sealed the deal. [/QUOTE]