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HOT COACH, SEC, BACK-TO-BACK BOWL GAMES, SEASON TICKETS LAGGING

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metsfan2323 said:
I did not know the Vanderbilt fan base was so weak. There is no way the B1G would prefer Vandy over UCONN.
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That's what I was thinking. The B1G must really be drooling.
 
I love how Franklin uses the phrase "I don't want to hear about" excuses, and then gets those excuses in the newspaper anyway.
 
Vandy has the same issues that all private schools (except ND and possibly USC) have selling football tickets and always will. The undergraduate student body comes from a much broader geographic area than most state schools. They attend because of academic or family reasons and more likely than not have a school they followed growing up back home. Their loyalty is split while they are there and after they graduate they are not as likely to set down roots in the same area where they went to school. That was certainly the case with everyone my daughter knew there. The local population for the most part are band wagon fans or in the case of Vandy already committed to the state school, even if it is in Knoxville. All of that said, SEC fans love having Vandy as a member. Just like the B1G loves Northwestern. Nashville is a fine city to visit and tickets are so easy to get that it often becomes an additional home game for the visiting team fans.
 
John Greene said:
Vandy has the same issues that all private schools (except ND and possibly USC) have selling football tickets and always will. The undergraduate student body comes from a much broader geographic area than most state schools. They attend because of academic or family reasons and more likely than not have a school they followed growing up back home. Their loyalty is split while they are there and after they graduate they are not as likely to set down roots in the same area where they went to school. That was certainly the case with everyone my daughter knew there. The local population for the most part are band wagon fans or in the case of Vandy already committed to the state school, even if it is in Knoxville. All of that said, SEC fans love having Vandy as a member. Just like the B1G loves Northwestern. Nashville is a fine city to visit and tickets are so easy to get that it often becomes an additional home game for the visiting team fans.
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The Vandy-Northwestern comparison is a strong one. I really don't see why the B1G needs two private schools with wishy washy fan bases.
 
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The guy is a good coach, but really now, angry at the lack of ticket sales? Do people in the entertainment business really get angry when people don't go to their shows or buy their books? What an entitled silly position to take.
 
upstater said:
The guy is a good coach, but really now, angry at the lack of ticket sales? Do people in the entertainment business really get angry when people don't go to their shows or buy their books? What an entitled silly position to take.
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You are serious? Of course they get mad.
 
upstater said:
No, they don't. They don't get mad at people.
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Okey dokey. Someone writes a book they think is good and they don't get mad if people don't read it? You don't think the bad crowds at XL pissed off Calhoun and Geno? That's crazy talk.
 
whaler11 said:
Okey dokey. Someone writes a book they think is good and they don't get mad if people don't read it? You don't think the bad crowds at XL pissed off Calhoun and Geno? That's crazy talk.
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Yes, they don't get mad. They simply do not. It would be absurd for them to get mad.
 
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whaler11 said:
Are you human? Do you know any?
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Do I know any humans or writers? All the writers I know (and I know a lot) would not get mad. You watch too many soap operas if you have that idea.
 
BoatShow said:
The Vandy-Northwestern comparison is a strong one. I really don't see why the B1G needs two private schools with wishy washy fan bases.
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I gave no credence to the Vandy/B1G rumors a while back. The B1G would not want them and they would not want the B1G. I firmly believe that if someone could somehow put together a conference of strong academics, private schools not currently in the Ivy league, they would join in a minute. Vandy sees itself as a national school competing with non ivies such as NW, Duke, ND, Stanford, even Georgetown and dare I say it BC, for students. It gets more undergrads from TX & IL than GA and as many from MA as AL. They are in the SEC for historical reasons and because the payout fully funds the athletic dept. (not that they need the money)
 
whaler11 said:
Yeah Geno doesn't get 'mad'

http://m.espn.go.com/ncw/story?storyId=6249777&src=desktop


This is ridiculous even by your standards.
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Doesn't sound mad. He says fans don't show up. They bought tix, but only want to come see the big games. He's right. That's spoiled. It's a different thing altogether though if everyday citizens and students would rather do something else than watch Vandy football.
 
upstater said:
Doesn't sound mad. He says fans don't show up. They bought tix, but only want to come see the big games. He's right. That's spoiled. It's a different thing altogether though if everyday citizens and students would rather do something else than watch Vandy football.
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No he wasn't mad at all... He never gets sarcastic when he's angry. What coach wouldn't be mad when his team has performed and is working their a**es off and no one buys tickets? The coaches in upstater's mind. It's almost impossible to be as wrong as you consistently are - but yet here we are again.
 
whaler11 said:
No he wasn't mad at all... He never gets sarcastic when he's angry. What coach wouldn't be mad when his team has performed and is working their a**es off and no one buys tickets? The coaches in upstater's mind. It's almost impossible to be as wrong as you consistently are - but yet here we are again.
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It's bizarre to get mad at average citizens for not buying your product. It's absurdly stupid of you not to understand the difference between a fanbase (that buys tickets and doesn't show up) and the average citizen that might have never even heard of a safety in football. Two totally separate things.
 
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Hmmm. I could definitely see someone who was a successful pop singer, rapper, or rock songwriter, who sold tons of singles / albums from their one or two hits, become angry at their audience for not buying their follow-up material. Especially if the sophomore album was much better. I don't know of any analogies for authors in the same situation, but it must have happened at some point, right?

Difference is, for the rock star, they wind up being hammered on stage in Duluth MN or somewhere, get in an argument with their hecklers and call their audience poseurs, and storm off stage, and someone records it and puts it on YouTube. Whereas the pissed off author just gets depressed on a book tour when only two people show up to their book signing at Barnes and Noble, then cuss out their agent on the phone but nobody records the video because they don't recognize the author.
 
junglehusky said:
Hmmm. I could definitely see someone who was a successful pop singer, rapper, or rock songwriter, who sold tons of singles / albums from their one or two hits, become angry at their audience for not buying their follow-up material. Especially if the sophomore album was much better. I don't know of any analogies for authors in the same situation, but it must have happened at some point, right?

Difference is, for the rock star, they wind up being hammered on stage in Duluth MN or somewhere, get in an argument with their hecklers and call their audience poseurs, and storm off stage, and someone records it and puts it on YouTube. Whereas the pissed off author just gets depressed on a book tour when only two people show up to their book signing at Barnes and Noble, then cuss out their agent on the phone but nobody records the video because they don't recognize the author.
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Doesn't happen with authors. The description of the rockstar you gave is consonant with mental illness. I wonder if Vandy's coach is mentally ill.

This is a little like the guy who came up with the latest Chunky Soup mix getting angry at regular Chunky buyers for preferring the mixes of his colleagues to his own.
 
upstater said:
The guy is a good coach, but really now, angry at the lack of ticket sales? Do people in the entertainment business really get angry when people don't go to their shows or buy their books? What an entitled silly position to take.
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First rule of Marketing = If people aren't purchasing your stuff, it's the fault of the stuff or the stuff sellers.
 
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