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Of course its great to get talent but ultimately there is just one ball and great teams have sets of players that fill important roles in the pecking order. We don't need every last great recruit we needwhat we have done wel with a combination of players with a diversity of skill levels
 
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If KO can pull off a class made up of top 10 (Newman and/or Stone), top 15-30 (Ray Smith or Derrick Jones), top 40 (Jalen Adams) and top 100 (Enoch), all who might have NBA level talent at some point, why would you want some role players? I understand, it's a good thing to have some kids w/out egos who play their brains out and contribute, but I think KO is going to recruit not only highly talented recruits, but ones that will play hard regardless to how highly ranked they might be. I doubt that a player who does not think team first is going to want to come here. Those that have any tendency toward that, KO will quickly coach that out of them or they won't last very long here. I don't see KO putting up with anyone who's not 10 toes in!
 
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While I 100% agree with your sentiment, highly ranked players can still play their "role" for a team. Kevin Ollie is a great coach, and he preaches team basketball. Think of the Spurs this year. Great coaches get supremely talented squads to play within a team concept; Kevin Ollie is one of those coaches.
 
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lets not forget that every highly touted player out of high school isn't automatically a superstar....Daniels was what? top 15 in his class? he was not even close to "superstar" in college....hell Drummond struggled greatly to find offense, even though we all saw the flashes of greatness that he's showing now in the NBA. Calhoun was wiz at taking middle of the pack guys and turning them into stars, he never stood much chance with the heavy hitters in the top of the rankings. Ollie does because he's a young guy that can relate to them and knows whats good in the world of young kids today. so i say screw it, let KO take em all.
 
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Samuel, Nolan (until proven otherwise), and Omar (also until proven otherwise). Great team players (i.e. 10 toes in) who may or may not make it to the next level. At this point in their game they fit the definition. Ollie knows what he's doing.
 
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I agree with the sentiments above. Even at UK, where everyone is a McDonald's AA there are different roles for different guys. In no way am I comparing us to UK (they should be trying to compare themselves to us), but the point is that you define different roles for guys, even if they are not recruited as "role players." Plus, the 15-16 roster already will have traditional role players - Rock, for example, is the prototypical role player - a big bruiser who rebounds and does the dirty work. Same for Cassell - to me he seems like a perfect 6th/7th man in the Kromah mold. It's exciting to be recruiting at this high level..I love where we are right now.
 
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People who say things like this are the same people who are "unimpressed" when we sign guys like Lubin, Samuel, and Brimah.
 
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I doubt that a player who does not think team first is going to want to come here. Those that have any tendency toward that, KO will quickly coach that out of them or they won't last very long here. I don't see KO putting up with anyone who's not 10 toes in!
I think this is so true. Not worried about this at all! Plenty of other things to worry about like conf. affiliation but in KO I trust. It's a great time to be a Husky fan!
 
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As of now, if Turtle stays with us, he is probably the perfect role player.
 
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Is there another takeaway from the OP?
Yes - that we should recruit guys with specific, developed skillsets instead of high-upside potential pros.

Not saying I agree with him, but I wouldn't complain if we ended up with a small forward who's more in the vein of Niels or Rashad than, say, Rudy.

Either way, tho, in KO I trust.
 
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Only on the Boneyard would a scenario be created where we recruit TOO MANY great players to the detriment of the team after getting one top 50 player to commit.
 
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Only on the Boneyard would a scenario be created where we recruit TOO MANY great players to the detriment of the team after getting one top 50 player to commit.
Well, we are a mid-major, after all.
 
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As of now, if Turtle stays with us, he is probably the perfect role player.

I would expect Turtle to disagree with you. Role players are rarely recruited (especially on elite teams) but normally found on campus (walk-ons) or high recruits who just didn't develop quick enough or as expected (e.g. Tyler Olander).

No coach bats 100% but no coach also likes wasting a schollie for 4 years.
 
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Maybe theyre role players, or maybe theyre Emekas and Napiers, but I always like to have a couple guys with a strong academic bent. Pretty good indicator that a guy just isn't willing to settle in life. Not a bad attitude to have on a bball team.
 
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The OP raises a valid point, but I only really need two names to provide some reassurance that egos will rarely, if ever, be a problem under KO: Ryan Boatright and Omar Calhoun.

Let's start with Omar...here is a kid who was one of the best players in New York City, hit two of the biggest shots of our season a year ago, remained loyal to the program when he had every reason not to be, and oh yeah, was named to the Big East all-freshman team. Yet, a year later, he found himself receiving DNP's in the NCAA Tournament while a grad transfer took all his minutes. Let me ask: did he ever, at any point in the season, second-guess Ollie? Did we ever hear anything about him being a problem in the locker-room? Was he ever anything less than humble and reflective in his dealings with the media? I know for a fact that I would have handled that situation a lot less graciously than he did - after the Michigan State game, he was as genuinely happy as anybody on the team.

Ryan Boatright is as selfless a player as we've had here. I think he was player of the year in Illinois his senior year of high school (and he was in the same recruiting class as Anthony Davis). He scored like 63 points in a high school game one time. As a sophomore, he averaged 15 points per game. And, perhaps most importantly as it relates to this conversation, he's been as candid in expressing his NBA aspirations as any player we've ever had here who has also expressed sentiments of wanting to move his family out of Chicago ASAP. If there was ever a player who had the profile of being unwilling to play second (or third) fiddle, it was him. Instead, he took everything Ollie told him to heart, shot two less times per game during his junior year, and devoted himself to being a distributor/defender during the tournament because that's what we needed him to do. In the national title game, he had everything going - he was sinking his pull-up jumper, nobody on Kentucky could stay in front of him, and he probably could have scored 25 points and become a hero if that was his priority. But do you know how many shots he took in that game? Six. To me, that was the most remarkable stat of the tournament. No other statistic could possibly better represent the collective sacrifice these guys were willing to make.

So, is it nice to have guys who are just happy to be on the team and will wipe sweat off the floor if you ask them to? Of course. And those guys are important. But it's even nicer to have top 100 kids who will channel their talent into whatever means necessary to help the team. As long as guys like Ryan Boatright and Omar Calhoun are around, we won't have teams that drastically underachieve.
 
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Lubin is the quintessential role player.. banger, defense, rebounding.. the first thing he mentions in his interview is getting a lotta rebounds
 
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