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Message: [QUOTE="FfldCntyFan, post: 4993845, member: 71"] Fully agree but I have to add the most important part of the equation is the response to the loss is what makes the [B][I]good loss[/I][/B] possible. As a NY Giants fan from the late 1960's I've said for decades that the best thing that happened to them in my lifetime was the [B][I]fumble[/I][/B] as that led them to hiring a football guy (George Young) to run the franchise and the clown show ended (until a bit more than a decade ago). Dan Hurley recognizing that other methodologies could be incorporated into what he was doing and being willing to change his approach has paid dividends far beyond what most of us could have imagined. [/QUOTE]