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Message: [QUOTE="Bayareahusky, post: 3001684, member: 2136"] Cabbie Love your post but I disagree.... I have always believed that the coach is in total control of the program.... and he/she dictates everything that goes on in that program in practice and in games.... In your scenario, when the team gave up ... or it appeared so.... those players should have been given an express ticket to the end of the bench.... and it wouldn't matter who replaced them... the important thing would have been to send a message that the coaching does not tolerate such passive play.... that is what Pat would have done... but rarely do i see holly disciplining players.... in my mind it is one of the reasons the players feel they rule the show and can walk all over her [/QUOTE]