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Highly ranked Rebecca Greenwell expands her list of schools (not UConn)

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This isn't a surprise to me! Before the record breaking performance in Mexico with the U16/17 ( don't remember) she was expected to stay in state at either Louisville or Kentucky. Don't know how much publicity has changed that, but guess we will see.
 
would love to see her go to L'ville or ND. would be cool if L'ville could snag Russell and Greenwell...
 
HuskyFan1125 said:
This isn't a surprise to me! Before the record breaking performance in Mexico with the U16/17 ( don't remember) she was expected to stay in state at either Louisville or Kentucky. Don't know how much publicity has changed that, but guess we will see.
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I may have missed something. What was the record-breaking performance?
 
MilfordHusky said:
I may have missed something. What was the record-breaking performance?
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i don't know about record breaking but she was the leading scorer on the team at 15.6 PPG followed by Russell with 11.6 and UCONN target Muvunga at 10.6. 2014 uber-star post player White was next with 9.8, Harper next at 9.6, and UCONN target Tucker at 9.4. Davis was next at 6.8 and Reimer next at 4.8.

Greenwell had a great tourney. so did Russell. i like Muvunga a lot but she's not rated as highly as Reimer. Geno's probably looking at both and he knows more than we do too.
 
I thought I remembered reading this, but wasn't sure, but per ESPN's "On The Trail" this is what it had to say about Greenwell.

"Greenwell tied or broke several records, though this is just the second U16 team fielded after the inaugural U16 Americas tournament in 2009 but is still impressive, with points averaged (15.6), field goals attempted (tied, 29), field goals made (62)and 3-pointers made (11) and attempted (tied, 24)".
 
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ah. well you are right then! record breaking performance! :)

honestly she's solid and talented for sure, but given the talent that Geno has already recruited at her position (Tuck, KML), and that he's after Diamond who plays a similar type position, i can see why he's not looking at her...
 
ericsandiego said:
ah. well you are right then! record breaking performance! :)

honestly she's solid and talented for sure, but given the talent that Geno has already recruited at her position (Tuck, KML), and that he's after Diamond who plays a similar type position, i can see why he's not looking at her...
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Eric, I keep harping on guards needed for the class but I cant seem to get any feedback! Do you know what the guard situation is or will be?
 
HuskyFan1125 said:
Eric, I keep harping on guards needed for the class but I cant seem to get any feedback! Do you know what the guard situation is or will be?
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Jannah Tucker and Karlie Samuelson are the guards targeted for 2013 as far as we know.
 
MilfordHusky said:
Jannah Tucker and Karlie Samuelson are the guards targeted for 2013 as far as we know.
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yes. Mil got it right. those are the kids we seem to be focusing on.
 
ericsandiego said:
would love to see her go to L'ville or ND. would be cool if L'ville could snag Russell and Greenwell...
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I could not agree with you more, ericsandiego!
We have 4 out of the top 15 recruits considering us: Russell, Greenwell,J. Jackson, and Mavunga.
If even two of these sign at Louisville we are going to have a helluva class. Things are looking good for Cardinal Nation.

We expect to give UCONN a run for there money this year at YUM!.
Any of you BY'ers coming down to Louisville for the game? Fabulous arena, looking forward to hosting your all's visit.
 
jennyo70 said:
I could not agree with you more, ericsandiego!
We have 4 out of the top 15 recruits considering us: Russell, Greenwell,J. Jackson, and Mavunga.
If even two of these sign at Louisville we are going to have a helluva class. Things are looking good for Cardinal Nation.

We expect to give UCONN a run for there money this year at YUM!.
Any of you BY'ers coming down to Louisville for the game? Fabulous arena, looking forward to hosting your all's visit.
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Jenny - most UCONN fans really like Walz and have a good healthy respect for what L'ville has accomplished. i know you guys managed to snag Bria Smith away from Tennessee. i think they and Kentucky may be your toughest competition for any of those kids, but who knows where they will end up? the question marks at tennessee could certainly work to your advantage, and to anyone else who is recruiting against tennessee...
 
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Again, I agree. I think all the drama going on at Duke also works to our advantage with Russell and Greenwell. Louisville loves Coach Walz and I am hopeful that he is the next Geno and Pat in the making. There is no reason to think he will leave U of L anytime soon. We have an amazing AD who has dumped a ton of money into making women's sports not only equitable, but competitive. Our future looks really, really bright. If Walz is still with us 20+ years from now like TN and UCONN have been blessed with their coaches, then we will be a powerhouse. We have a ways to go, but, Walz is absolutely building it.

I was hopeful YUM! would get in on the B East Tournament. Maybe next time it is up for bid. Maybe after Geno and Muffett see the facilities this year, and see the amazing fan base, they will agree not only can we host it but we can show up if our beloved Cards get knocked out. Louisville loves their Lady Cards, and basketball, and we are all showing up in droves to prove it.
 
ericsandiego said:
ah. well you are right then! record breaking performance! :)

honestly she's solid and talented for sure, but given the talent that Geno has already recruited at her position (Tuck, KML), and that he's after Diamond who plays a similar type position, i can see why he's not looking at her...
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tuck is a 4 who can possibly play the 3. lewis is a 3 who can play the 2. and diamond is 3/4/2 in that order. maybe it's just greenwell isn't looking at him ;)
 
There are always many potential reasons for all parties involved. Guessing is useless. Only if they speak can one know their personal reasons.
 
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DaddyChoc said:
welp... we can shut this baby down :cool:
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There can be a lot of fun around here in guessing. It is important to remember, however, that it is useless in regards to certain things and that some things are easier to make guesses about and some more appropriate for guessing about.
 
Icebear said:
There can be a lot of fun around here in guessing. It is important to remember, however, that it is useless in regards to certain things and that some things are easier to make guesses about and some more appropriate for guessing about.
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you could have said that before it was mentioned that "she wasnt looking at him"..... since it was guessing that "he wasnt looking at her" first
 
No one said she wasn't looking at him, they said "MAYBE" she wasn't looking at him which was exactly my point. We cannot read their minds and can't know unless they state a clear reason. All else is guessing, could be this or could be that. I agreed with you and tnvol.
 
tnvolfan65 said:
tuck is a 4 who can possibly play the 3. lewis is a 3 who can play the 2. and diamond is 3/4/2 in that order. maybe it's just greenwell isn't looking at him ;)
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Geno likes players who are versatile. when the class of 2013 comes in, he will have...

Dolson 5
Hartley 1,2
Johnson 4
Engeln 2,3
KML 3,2,4
Banks 2,1
Stokes 5,4
Tuck 4,3
Jefferson 1
Stewart 4,5,3

that's not counting McDaniel, who if she commits, can play the 4,3, and possibly 2 as she's been "working on her guard skills". so far it appears he's looking at Samuelson, Tucker, Muvunga, Deshields, and Reimer. as a 6'1" guard type player, i'd say she's similar to KML, who would be a junior, and Diamond who would be in her class. perhaps Greenwell can't play the 4 which makes her different. My point is that there's been no report that Geno has reached out to her or looked at her at all. not saying that won't change. but UCONN isn't on her list and apparently she's not on ours.
 
mcdaniel is not by any means a 2. she's a 4 who might expand her range and ballhandling enough to play the 3. which regardless defeats your point entirely, because why would geno not want greenwell, a true shooting guard (which you only have 1 of in banks, i'm not counting engeln) but want 3 power forwards in the same class?

i just think it's funny that when an elite prospect doesn't list uconn, it's because she's not a good fit or geno didn't want her. when the reality is, some players just don't like connecticut. just as some don't like tennessee, baylor, ect.

but also...faris, doty, and buck will be gone when 2013 come in.
 
tnvolfan65 said:
mcdaniel is not by any means a 2. she's a 4 who might expand her range and ballhandling enough to play the 3. which regardless defeats your point entirely, because why would geno not want greenwell, a true shooting guard (which you only have 1 of in banks, i'm not counting engeln) but want 3 power forwards in the same class?

i just think it's funny that when an elite prospect doesn't list uconn, it's because she's not a good fit or geno didn't want her. when the reality is, some players just don't like connecticut. just as some don't like tennessee, baylor, ect.
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not quite sure i understand your point. can you find a post on here that says Geno doesn't like Greenwell? any why would tennessee even be recruiting her as Davis and Simmons are true shooting guards. i think it's funny when other fans make comments like yours. unlike some schools, UCONN does not go after every top kid. they cast a very narrow net.

perhaps the reason Geno is not looking at Greenwell is because he's looking at Jannah Tucker, another top 10 shooting guard in the class, and Samuelson - another SG... Over the last 12 years, Geno has had the most success in WCBB by far winning 6 NC's. perhaps that causes some fans to have attitudes tinged with arrogance, but you can't argue that UCONN is at the top and there is no one else close in that category.

we have no idea why he focuses in on some kids and not on others, but there are a myriad of possible reasons, including the possibility that the kid is simply not interested in UCONN.
 
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ericsandiego said:
not quite sure i understand your point. can you find a post on here that says Geno doesn't like Greenwell? any why would tennessee even be recruiting her as Davis and Simmons are true shooting guards. i think it's funny when other fans make comments like yours. unlike some schools, UCONN does not go after every top kid. they cast a very narrow net.

perhaps the reason Geno is not looking at Greenwell is because he's looking at Jannah Tucker, another top 10 shooting guard in the class, and Samuelson - another SG... Over the last 12 years, Geno has had the most success in WCBB by far winning 6 NC's. perhaps that causes some fans to have attitudes tinged with arrogance, but you can't argue that UCONN is at the top and there is no one else close in that category.

we have no idea why he focuses in on some kids and not on others, but there are a myriad of possible reasons, including the possibility that the kid is simply not interested in UCONN.
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Excellent Post Eric!
 
tnvolfan65 said:
why would geno not want greenwell, a true shooting guard (which you only have 1 of in banks, i'm not counting engeln) but want 3 power forwards in the same class?
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Who knows whether Geno ever showed interest in Greenwell. But I'm struck by the fact that you seem so certain that he wanted Greenwell because, well, because that's just how you see it. If you know anything about UConn under Geno you'd know that he recruits differently than other coaches, and yes that includes Summitt. He doesn't cast a wide net, never has and never will. He looks for versatility in all five positions. Your use of the term "true shooting guard" suggests you are looking at players through a different and traditional lens that speaks more about the offense in Knoxville than it does about the offense in Storrs. Geno obviously feels quite comfortable with players who can fill both guard positions during the next 2-3 years including Hartley, Banks, Mosqueda-Lewis, Faris, Jefferson and Doty. He appears to be pursuing Tucker and Samuelson in '13.

The last time Geno recruited 3 power forwards in the same class it worked out pretty well for him.
 
ericsandiego said:
not quite sure i understand your point. can you find a post on here that says Geno doesn't like Greenwell? any why would tennessee even be recruiting her as Davis and Simmons are true shooting guards. i think it's funny when other fans make comments like yours. unlike some schools, UCONN does not go after every top kid. they cast a very narrow net.

perhaps the reason Geno is not looking at Greenwell is because he's looking at Jannah Tucker, another top 10 shooting guard in the class, and Samuelson - another SG... Over the last 12 years, Geno has had the most success in WCBB by far winning 6 NC's. perhaps that causes some fans to have attitudes tinged with arrogance, but you can't argue that UCONN is at the top and there is no one else close in that category.

we have no idea why he focuses in on some kids and not on others, but there are a myriad of possible reasons, including the possibility that the kid is simply not interested in UCONN.
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she's been all over this message board since the u16 tourney...fans wondering why there were no reports of interest or if geno was recruiting her. and i was responding to your initial post where YOU said "i can see why he's not looking at her." my point is that geno doesn't pick and choose his players. we all know that there are many players that want to play for uconn, but i'm saying becca greenwell obviously wasn't one of them.

and simmons will be a senior when greenwell is a freshman along with combo guard, kamiko williams. taber spani will be gone, so davis and greenwell would have the opportunity to come in and play the 2 and 3 for several years. i think tennessee will look to take one, maybe two out of jordan adams, becca greenwell, and diamond deshields.

and to UConnCat, i don't know what you're implying about traditional roles on the offense. we have had one of the most versatile teams in the country for years. stricklen is consistently playing 1-4. spani plays 2-4. manning plays 2-4. our limited post rotation has kept glory down low, but hopefully a healthy baugh and brewer this year means she can show her versatility, particularly on the defensive end where she can guard 1-5. the only players i would say were limited to a traditional position were the pg's avant and bass and then kelley cain. angie was usually on the wing as well, but i don't see a problem in filling the position of shooting guard with a shooter who's role is pretty defined.
 
i just want to expand on my post a little bit since it's already been quoted and i don't want to edit it. years ago and leading up to the Strother class and especially the following Sherwood class, Geno would not even look at a kid till their junior year. IIRC the main reason for that was he felt kids were still developing/growing/etc. and it was a crapshoot at best to know where kids were at developmentally until into their junior years. he'd always had terrific success that way but getting Ann, Nicole, Barb, Willnett and Gillian Goring was the last good class he got recruiting that way.

The following year, IIRC, players he may have wanted (plan A) were already gone by the time he started looking in earnest and we ended up with Sherwood, Robinson and Wright. Additionally he was stung when Brit Hunter seemed poised to verbal to UCONN only to change her mind and go to Duke. Wright never made it to campus, Robinson and Sherwood both transferred at the end of the year, even tho we won the NC that season.

The following season he scored a solid class of Charde, Mel, and Ketia, but was forced to explore the JUCO route nabbing Sadiq. and i believe that was when he shifted his recruiting to start identifying kids he liked earlier and at least communicating with them sooner. After nabbing Renee, Kalana, Cassie and Tahira, Geno really went on a roll of getting in early and nabbing Tina, Maya, EDD, and then KML and Breanna/Moriah - an unprecedented string of #1/2 players after the 2 year lull following Strother.

My point is that recruiting has changed a lot and Geno has had to change with it, especially with regards to identifying kids earlier. In fact, when you look at the number of top 5 kids Geno has nabbed over the past 7 years, it adds up to more than all the rest of the years he recruited combined, so clearly he's doing something right lately.

One other thing that is different with Geno compared to some/many other coaches is that he prefers not to use all 15 scholarships. i believe his ideal team number is 12. because of that, there are only so many kids he CAN go after and even less that he ends up focusing on. Do i wish he was going after Russell, Deshields, Greenwell, Reimer, Harper, Cooper, Grey, Tucker, Scaife, Muvunga and Johnson from 2013? of course as those are the top 10-11 players who are not committed yet. but from what we've read, he's after Deshields, Reimer, Tucker, and Muvunga - 4 out of the top 12.

so i really answer why Geno is not looking at Russell, Greenwell, Harper, Cooper, Grey, Scaife, or Johnson. nor can i say for sure he won't look at them or vice versa. i think it's more surprising if we find out he never looked hard at Russell than Greenwell. Russell is a much more unique player than Greenwell. But bottom line, one thing Geno has not changed in recruiting style is that he looks at less kids than other coaches. maybe the "less" just is an illusion as nothing gets publicized, but i think in general kids don't really hear from UCONN nearly as often as they do from other schools, volume-wise.

Perhaps other fans can recall interviews or comments from Geno that shed more light on his recruiting strategy than what i can recall.
 
tnvolfan65 said:
and to UConnCat, i don't know what you're implying about traditional roles on the offense. we have had one of the most versatile teams in the country for years. stricklen is consistently playing 1-4. spani plays 2-4. manning plays 2-4. our limited post rotation has kept glory down low, but hopefully a healthy baugh and brewer this year means she can show her versatility, particularly on the defensive end where she can guard 1-5. the only players i would say were limited to a traditional position were the pg's avant and bass and then kelley cain. angie was usually on the wing as well, but i don't see a problem in filling the position of shooting guard with a shooter who's role is pretty defined.
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Thankfully versatility is defined much more narrowly at Connecticut. I'm comfortable with the different definitions, though. Good luck this season.

BTW, you said Greenwell is "obviously" not interested in UConn. Again, why is this obvious? Possible? Yes. But I'm not getting the obvious part. Explain, please.
 
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ericsandiego said:
of course you would! lol. welcome to the board!!
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Thanks Eric, I am new to this board, as are we all. However, I've been around the Yard for several years, I even have a couple of UConn T-shirts. ;)
 
DoreBurt said:
Thanks Eric, I am new to this board, as are we all. However, I've been around the Yard for several years, I even have a couple of UConn T-shirts. ;)
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I hope Greenwell goes to Vandy. I like the offense your coach runs. It's fun to watch.
 
tnvolfan65 said:
she's been all over this message board since the u16 tourney...fans wondering why there were no reports of interest or if geno was recruiting her. and i was responding to your initial post where YOU said "i can see why he's not looking at her." my point is that geno doesn't pick and choose his players. we all know that there are many players that want to play for uconn, but i'm saying becca greenwell obviously wasn't one of them.
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Again I suggest that that is not obvious since to the best of my knowledge neither Geno nor Rebecca Greenwell has made any statement per any form of relationship between the two and recruiting. She may have been interested and Geno is not or Geno may have been interested and she is not. We simply don't know.
 
Icebear said:
Again I suggest that that is not obvious since to the best of my knowledge neither Geno nor Rebecca Greenwell has made any statement per any form of relationship between the two and recruiting. She may have been interested and Geno is not or Geno may have been interested and she is not. We simply don't know.
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also to add to what you said ice - my earlier comment of "i can see why Geno's not looking at her", Bria is a phenom 2 who excels at the 1. KML is a phenom 3 who can play the 2. Banks is a natural 2 who has shown she "can" play the 1. and he's looking at Tucker and Samuleson, who play the 2. anyway, given the depth at the 2/3 positions, it's why i said what i did...
 
ericsandiego said:
also to add to what you said ice - my earlier comment of "i can see why Geno's not looking at her", Bria is a phenom 2 who excels at the 1. KML is a phenom 3 who can play the 2. Banks is a natural 2 who has shown she "can" play the 1. and he's looking at Tucker and Samuleson, who play the 2. anyway, given the depth at the 2/3 positions, it's why i said what i did...
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Yup, that is at least an attempt at a logical discerning of what might be but we just don't know. And we must remember Geno would not be allowed to say anything other than we are or we aren't. Coaches can not give commentary on recruits.
 
UConnCat said:
I hope Greenwell goes to Vandy. I like the offense your coach runs. It's fun to watch.
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Yeah, she is one of the better offensive minds around. I love to watch it too.
 
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DoreBurt said:
Yeah, she is one of the better offensive minds around. I love to watch it too.
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I would rather enjoy that too. Been a while since Melanie had a big time player, and she does more with what she has than any coach out there with possible exception being Bill Fennelly at I-State.

Also, PLEASE not UT or UK...
 
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