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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 4343677, member: 153"] There's actually a lot of stuff that went on between the years 1978 and 1982. Paterno is definitely on record as saying Crouthamel and Flynn opposed PSU prior to 1982. Crouthamel seems to agree with Paterno's version when he mentions Syracuse voting against. It's hard to say if he's referring to an official vote in 1982, or a soft vote taken in 1981. Before Pitt was invited. You have to remember that John Toner and Dave Gavitt successfully got a number of schools to go along with adding PSU, and they had long meetings with Paterno about it back in 1980. UConn was a key to all this because it was a non-football school pushing for football members in the Big East. Paterno seems to think that BC and Syracuse scuttled it in 1980 / 1981. Crouthamel references a vote Syracuse took against, but I don't know if he's referring to 1980 / 1981 or 1982. [/QUOTE]