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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 4343653, member: 153"] It's amazing that you can't understand the history. Paterno wanted to create a northeastern conference even before the BE started discussions in 78. They negotiated with Penn State and Rutgers, but Paterno made demands that were pissed people off. Only after that was Seton Hall invited. 4 years later PSU came back, and they brought Rutgers, Maryland and West Virginia with tehm. There appears to be some confusion about the vote since Paterno has said Pitt and Syracuse voted against him, Crouthamel has also let it out that Syracuse voted against them, but Tranghese countered that and said Syracuse voted for them [/QUOTE]