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[QUOTE="nomar, post: 5059606, member: 651"]
So you think he was the greatest cheater in sports history, got it. Thanks for confirming.

Long-time steroid usage is supposed to make your body break down. Amazing that he took PEDs for 13 years and continued to rake. Never changing his body shape. Never testing positive. Gotta hand it to him to avoid that and avoiding the ravages of steroids. Truly incredible.

You keep conflating time periods. Barry Bonds didn't start juicing until late in his career. If he started taking steroids at age 26 and never stopped, the odds of him performing like he did at 38 would have been very low. People usually point to injuries as evidence of PED usage. Which is exactly what you'd be arguing if Ortiz tailed off at age 33.

Your manipulation of stats is silly, too. Including his first couple seasons for an average? Why? Two years before he joined the Sox he averaged a HR every 16.8 AB. He got better the next year, and better the year after that. News flash: players get better until they peak.

Nobody knows for sure regarding numerous players but here you're throwing slop against the wall.
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