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Message: [QUOTE="boog204, post: 5055901, member: 880"] As a Yankee fan I agree to an extent... I think Jeter was a great baseball player and if he was a Milwaukee Brewer I think he still gets 3000 hits and is a HOF'er. I don't think he's a multiple time GG winner and he doesn't win 5 titles because Greg Vaughn and Jeromy Burnitz, despite "gaudy" numbers at times, are not O'Neill and Bernie. But, I do think his presence, "clutchness," and ability to for 20 years seemingly say nothing and deflect all BS was essential for those teams and incredibly underrated by non-Yankee fans. [/QUOTE]