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Message: [QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 4105300, member: 168"] I wasn't using Sagarin, so why would you change the metric? New Hampshire was 277 by the metric we had been using. I mostly went back and looked at it to see if it was an accurate reflection of reality or fair counter-argument. It was a decent one—one that I think misses context. But also one that either got something wrong or changed the metric to make a point. I guess it was the latter. Honestly, I do think the terms and stakes have largely been laid out on this, and the answer to this may never really become clear since I think the team is good but not Final Four good. At that point—provided they don't get grossly underseeded or flame out—all evidence would be up for debate. [/QUOTE]