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Message: [QUOTE="whaler11, post: 2759563, member: 676"] Who said it was. 1. Stop ignoring these people created the problem in the first place 2. Herbst already quit If one wants to say screw Ollie he sucked let’s find any way in the world to not pay him - that is fine - just own it. Stop pretending it’s about violations. Stop pretending that the way they went about it isn’t ridiculously slimy. Stop trying to nail Ollie while giving a pass to the people who created the issues in the first place. I actually respect anyone who says - I don’t want him to have the money and I don’t care how far they are willing to go to not pay him. [/QUOTE]