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Message: [QUOTE="Methalius, post: 5329297, member: 13213"] I agree with you. I know Dame will be a First Ballot HOFer but I can't overlook the fact that despite all of his perceived prowess, he has NEVER made the NBA Finals once. In fact, he's never made it to a Conference Finals. To be a truly great player you have to have a little bit of playoff success. I know everyone wants to call him to be an All Time great but he has NEVER done anything to in the playoffs to prove that he is one. His teams are 25-43 in 14 playoff series. He is a hell of a player, he has done a lot in the NBA in terms of individual accomplishments but his record speaks for itself. If he is a truly an all time great player then he should have done something in the playoffs in his career. I mean, he's been in the league for 13 years. [/QUOTE]