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Message: [QUOTE="Conndog, post: 5315743, member: 5939"] Can you chip on the green okay if off it a little (say 10-30 yards off green)? Then maybe when 100-150 yards away, just push ball forward- take a 6 or 7 iron and hit an easy line drive straight ahead- just take it back like a chip and just try to make direct contact with ball- it scoots forward enough to give you that 10-30 yard chip shot. Essentially, you are changing that 100-150 yard shot into two easier shots with much higher chance of success. This is good strategy too when sand traps surround green- you avoid them by being short of them, then you have that short chip shot. So, develop or work on that short chip shot. And if you need to hit ball up in air on a short chip shot, just swing at ball and stop swing quickly after contact- in other words, no follow through. Just chop and stop- ball goes up in air automatically. Perfect technique if you have to go over sand traps from short distance away. [/QUOTE]