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Message: [QUOTE="Chin Diesel, post: 5315235, member: 34"] Penalty strokes kill the score card. My advice from someone who is in this 85-95 score group most rounds?? Do whatever it takes to keep your tee shot in play. Even if it means hitting a 160-170 yards iron or hybrid. At your skill level, if you are playing the correct tees, most Par 4's are less than 375 and Par 5's are less than 500. Take two shots on a Par 4 that will get you within 40-50 yards of the green and try to get up and down for par. Worst case is a bogey. Hitting 3 6-irons can get you to the green on the Par 5's in regulation. [/QUOTE]