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Message: [QUOTE="Patman, post: 4743688, member: 3391"] Bingo. When I was a grad student I had Hathaway pegged as useless because he and they wouldn't do the small things. I spent a lot of time at the hockey rink and I know they were an after thought but I always said "one thousand dollars in paint would go a long way". It is that era 04-09 when I was there that it was clear despite football being on the move and basketball winning that they were coasting. If your guy isn't trying to figure out how to do things better he ain't your guy [/QUOTE]