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Message: [QUOTE="DefenseBB, post: 3414243, member: 7492"] Well, let's see, RPI has the ACC the 5th of the P5, while the PAC12 is #1. I see only 6 ACC schools in the top 50: #3 Louisville 20-1 Massey #5 #16 Florida St 17-3 Massey #20 #19 NC State 19-1 Massey #7 #26 Virginia Tech 15-4 Massey #29 #34 Virginia 8-12 Massey #64 (not logical to compare this team to anyone in PAC12) #36 Duke 11-9 Massey #48 (this record is close to the bubble) The PAC12 has 7 #2 Oregon 17-2 M-#3 #5 Stanford 18-2 M-#6 #6 UCLA 18-1 M-#8 #13 Oregon St 16-7 M-#11 #27 Arizona St 15-5 M-#22 #33 Arizona 16-3 M-#16 #43 Colorado 14-5 M-#42 The conference is NOT good by any logic you want to apply compared the other P5 and top 2 or teams in the conference and for you to suggest otherwise by mentioning this in the same breath as the PAC12 is sheer bias. After Louisville, who has not played anyone in the top 25 RPI other than Oregon, none of the ACC teams worry anyone for making a Final Four or even an elite 8. Sorry if your feelings are hurt. The evidence just shows "meh" this year. The only "traditional powers" down is ND while the rest of the league slots about the same as the past. It is lacking significant top talent when compared to the rest of the P5, even worse than the Big12, yikes... [/QUOTE]