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Message: [QUOTE="BroadwayVa, post: 3108557, member: 6118"] Rene was the pg for Geno as a frosh and led that team in some less that great years. Barbara Turner an exceptional player who left nothing but blood on the floor. Does that detract from their abilities or their importance to the Uconn lineage, both played long as frosh. Stewie cannot be used as the measuring stick--maybe the example of not ever again. All players can be put in THAT situation, some will succeed (as those above) and some will fail. If not winning an NC or FF or Elite 8 is failure--nothing more need be said. I've hung with UCWBB when winning wasn't an expectation to when losing wasn't accepted by fans. [/QUOTE]