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Message: [QUOTE="MD#12Fan, post: 4116759, member: 8636"] I appreciate your "clarification". I still don't know why you won't explain your ideas. Every time I mention Dean, the BY goes haywire. It's like a symptom of something really bad. It's an unhealthy, unseemly arrogance, that you can't discuss other coaches on this site. Dean is a branch away from Naismith himself at Kansas. All sports go through change and innovation. Football had the forward pass (Thorpe, Carlisle, and Pop Warner) and man-in-motion (Tom Landry) for example. Both of them have their image carved into the totem of great coaches. Geno, of course is in any "great coach" conversation but IMO his superior abilities are in communication and management, not innovation. I would argue even that he is even more reluctant to try new things in recent years. He has had "centerless" teams for a while now and he keeps running the same stuff with the same result. He should remember how Wooden won with Wicks and Rowe against Artis Gilmore. Wooden won different ways. Yes he had great players just like Geno does. [/QUOTE]