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Message: [QUOTE="Paesano, post: 2401247, member: 5631"] They don't get it. They will never get it because they don't want to get it. Two things turn a "great" into a "former great". One is time and the other is irrelevance. A champion remains "great" in the eyes of the public for a long time if he/she/they remain relevant. Falling off a cliff and disappearing speeds up the process. Staying in the top 25 keeps a championship in the minds of the public for a long time. That is what usually happens. This program fell off a cliff and needs to reverse that ASAP. [/QUOTE]