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Message: [QUOTE="nelsonmuntz, post: 963972, member: 833"] One of the things I really like about Martin and in which I don't like with traditional fantasy and sci-fi storytelling is that the past matters very much in Game of Thrones. The Lannisters weakness comes from an idiotic drunken king followed by an idiotic sociopathic king that ruled in the midst of a multifront war. The Lannisters have won a crown that is not strong, and they are not handling that victory among themselves very well either. This is a common theme in the book and show. Victory precedes defeat over and over. Ned Stark, Jaime, Renly, Robb Stark, Stannis, Theon and even Tyrion, have had their greatest victories right before crushing defeats or setbacks. [/QUOTE]