For what it is worth

[GG]

The new rumor on the wv rivals site is that we are headed to the big 12 along with south Florida. If true, great. But I will believe it when I see it.

 

[upstater]

The new rumor on the wv rivals site is that we are headed to the big 12 along with south Florida. If true, great. But I will believe it when I see it.

I know this is infinitely better than the AAC but ugh! and puke.

 

[upstater]

I will add that South Florida to the B12 actually makes a ton of sense.

In fact, if I were a betting man, I'd say they have the best chance of finding an out. The huge WINNER in what transpired this week is USF.

Very hard to believe that Barf guy missed that.

 

[amory]

lol. So we were going to the ACC, then the Big 10, then the SEC, and now the Big 12.

Hope springs eternal I guess. We're going to the AAC and staying there. For at least a long, long while.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The new rumor on the wv rivals site is that we are headed to the big 12 along with south Florida. If true, great. But I will believe it when I see it.

Seems absurd to me. USF gives them nothing. UConn gives them an eastern team for WVU to play...in theory. In reality, Storrs is not close to Morgantown. Cinci would make much more sense for them as a midwestern school. Unlike the B1G, markets don't really matter to the B12.

 

[gars44]

Everything on the WV board is absurd. Except the Fish of WV. He seems to be in the know!

 

[Hoophound]

The B12 taking us makes sense in that it gives them a foot down in NY. Texas likes going big and in this country New York is as big as it gets.

 

[upstater]

USF gives them nothing?
USF in a big conference earning big $$ gives them a flag in Florida for recruiting, but also a program that under the right circumstances can overtake, say, a Miami.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The B12 taking us makes sense in that it gives them a foot down in NY. Texas likes going big and in this country New York is as big as it gets.

That's ridiculous. Texas doesn't give a rat's ass about NY. Nobody in NY will follow teams from Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and Iowa and they know it. They have no chance of being relevant there. Markets don't matter to the Big 12. They have no network and no plans for one. Content is king. Brands matter. If they look at UConn it's because we're the best brand available. That's why they took WVU...strong football brand. BYU would be a strong brand. UNLV would be a good brand. USF? UCF? Nobody knows them. They are irrelevant. Even Cinci has no brand power...their best edge is location in the midwest. I am originally from Big 12 country and make no mistake, they have no fondness for the east coast. None. Most of the fans are pissed that they took WVU and went that far east.

 

[Hoophound]

You have to sell Texas on any expansion. You can almost be guaranteed we will play Texas in NY more than once if invited to the B12. Texas cares about New York television sets just as much as everyone else does. They bring money. The Big12 brought in WVU, if they are going to expand in the east why ignore NY? You get Hartford as a bonus.

 

[djct1999]

at worst, my guess is texas football is followed in nyc as much as syracuse football is.

 

[TRest]

Seems absurd to me. USF gives them nothing. UConn gives them an eastern team for WVU to play...in theory. In reality, Storrs is not close to Morgantown. Cinci would make much more sense for them as a midwestern school. Unlike the B1G, markets don't really matter to the B12.

They are just trolling Cincy fans.

 

[Husky25]

After this year it is truly not going to matter what conference we are in. Beginning in 2014, the BCS no longer exists. The football playoff is set up for 10 years. and the only thing that I am 93.692% sure about is tournament expansion. It will not stay 4 teams for very long. It will soon go to 8 and evenutually include all conference champions.

 

[Hoophound]

After this year it is truly not going to matter what conference we are in. Beginning in 2014, the BCS no longer exists. The football playoff is set up for 10 years. and the only thing that I am 93.692% sure about is tournament expansion. It will not stay 4 teams for very long. It will soon go to 8 and evenutually include all conference champions.

It won't matter other than we will be $20-30 million per year in income behind all the other majors, but that's no big deal.

 

[noeynox]

lol. So we were going to the ACC, then the Big 10, then the SEC, and now the Big 12.

Hope springs eternal I guess. We're going to the AAC and staying there. For at least a long, long while.

And liking it goshdarn it!!!

 

[uconNYC]

What really sucks is that had the ACC taken UConn, the B12 would have probably added UL and UC and everyone other than Mike Aresco would have been happy.

UL going to the ACC kind of took away the B12's most logical expansion candidate and unfortunately for Cincy they are not as attractive an addition without UL.

CR really has played out the apocalyptic scenario for UConn

 

[Husky25]

It won't matter other than we will be $20-30 million per year in income behind all the other majors, but that's no big deal.

Unfortunately, this cannot be helped. I'm talking about the product on the field/court. Win games, get into the tournament, and hopefully get a couple more high profile wins. Same thing in basketball. The money issue sucks, but it is what it is.

 

[Inyatkin]

And you thought West Virginia complained about travel

 

[pj]

What really sucks is that had the ACC taken UConn, the B12 would have probably added UL and UC and everyone other than Mike Aresco would have been happy.

UL going to the ACC kind of took away the B12's most logical expansion candidate and unfortunately for Cincy they are not as attractive an addition without UL.

CR really has played out the apocalyptic scenario for UConn

That is why the ACC took Louisville. Florida State preferred Louisville because it forced the Big 12 to bid for them. ESPN liked it because they had first refusal on AAC so was able to get Louisville and UConn rights, if the ACC took UConn then Louisville to Big12 loses a property for them.

UConn needs to create some competition for itself by getting involved with Fox.

 

[uconNYC]

Not much difference between a flight from Austin to Hartford than Tucson to Seattle or Miami to Boston. The B12 adding UConn is no more of a logistical issue than many of the other CR moves made so far.

 

[HuskyHawk]

What really sucks is that had the ACC taken UConn, the B12 would have probably added UL and UC and everyone other than Mike Aresco would have been happy.

UL going to the ACC kind of took away the B12's most logical expansion candidate and unfortunately for Cincy they are not as attractive an addition without UL.

CR really has played out the apocalyptic scenario for UConn

It happened earlier than that. Pitt was a perfect fit for the ACC. The Big 12 had a very logical expansion block to WVU, Pitt, Cinci and Louisville, all of which are geographically coherent. The ACC should have added UConn and Rutgers long ago. If it had UConn and Rutgers now, instead of Pitt and Louisville, it would be better off. It would control the NY market.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Not much difference between a flight from Austin to Hartford than Tucson to Seattle or Miami to Boston. The B12 adding UConn is no more of a logistical issue than many of the other CR moves made so far.

How about the women's vollyball team on a bus?

 

[Adios]

How about the women's vollyball team on a bus?

Can I go along for the ride with them??

 

[kingdobbs]

How about the women's vollyball team on a bus?

If we're getting $20 mil a year from TV revenue in the Texas Ten, the extra expense for women's volleyball and M/W soccer (just about the only sports that would be affected) will be a drop in the bucket.

 

[frankthetank]

It happened earlier than that. Pitt was a perfect fit for the ACC. The Big 12 had a very logical expansion block to WVU, Pitt, Cinci and Louisville, all of which are geographically coherent. The ACC should have added UConn and Rutgers long ago. If it had UConn and Rutgers now, instead of Pitt and Louisville, it would be better off. It would control the NY market.

Yes, Pitt (believe it or not) was a critical and valuable piece in conference realignment. I know that there seems to be some people on this board that believe that the ACC wanted to bring in Syracuse and UConn as opposed to Pitt, but trust me, Pitt held a ton of cards here: an AAU school with a lot of tradition located in a good TV market and one of the best football recruiting areas in the northern half of the US (western Pennsylvania). In a world where Penn State didn't exist, Pitt would have been a shoe-in for the Big Ten. The Big 12 didn't want to just add WVU and/or Louisville alone. HuskyHawk nails it that the Big 12 was looking at adding Pitt, WVU, Cincinnati and Louisville all as a unit, with Pitt being considered the most valuable piece in that puzzle. Whatever people might think of the ACC, John Swofford is NOT dumb. He knew that he had to act immediately if the ACC ever wanted Pitt (and they deemed Pitt to be a much more valuable piece than other Big East candidates), so that's what spurred the Pitt/Syracuse expansion in September 2011. The ACC ended up blocking the Big 12 with that move and did it yet again when it added Louisville this past November. For a period of time, the ACC might not have been able to hold off attacks from the Big Ten or SEC, but they definitely made sure that the Big 12's options were marginalized.