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Message: [QUOTE="Duncan Idaho, post: 4700560, member: 1093"] Think he initially tried. Not retaining his OC after offering 150k of his own salary then making his OL coach do double duty as an OC plus not being told his program was going indy until the anouncement, sucked. As far as his kid. he was lead recruiter for the beginnings of a very good class s until it fell apart after the season started. Alot of kids had P5 or multiple P5 offers and was ranked very high for us at the time if you believe in such things. [/QUOTE]