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Message: [QUOTE="SVCBeercats, post: 2602892, member: 7874"] There is opinion and then there is [B]ignorance[/B]. You said: "[B]Tiffany Hayes has bounced around the league as well." [/B]Tiffany Hayes was drafted by the Atlanta Dream. She has started games for all six years she has "bounced around" Atlanta which is the [B]only[/B] WNBA team for which she has played. She was named to the 2012 WNBA All-Rookie team. In 2016, Hayes re-signed with the Dream to a multi-year deal. You said: In 6 years in the league Hayes ... [B]has never been a WNBA All-Star[/B]. She was voted into the 2017 WNBA All-Star Game. In 2016 she averaged 30 ppg. in the playoff. :) Her 12.9 ppg. places her in the top 25 WNBA scorers which is stellar by an objective measure and not your subjective measure. In 2016 she was the 12th leading scorer in WNBA. In 2017 she was the 13th leading WNBA scorer. Tiffany's 12 ppg. in the playoffs would consistently place her in the top 25 WNBA playoff scorers. Lindsay Whalen averages 11.7 ppg. in the playoffs. Sylvia Fowles averages 15 ppg. in the playoff. Are they not stellar? Listen to Geno. Points are not the measure of stellar. The player's total game is the measure. Take heart. Ignorance can be fixed. [/QUOTE]