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Message: [QUOTE="LoTrader, post: 3263276, member: 8404"] Pivec is not athletic--none of the kids you mentioned with the exception of Rhyne Howard & Sabrina are in the same athletic universe as Pivec, including CW. Pivec threw Javelin for OSU, and won the state HS javelin championship, and ran cross country when in High School. Pivec is an "all-around" better basketball player (scorer, shooting percentage from 3 and overall, rebounder, defender) than any of the players mentioned, minus Sabrina. Pivec has played all 5 positions on the court for OSU, and very competently (incredibly smart and very high basketball IQ). Statements like "Pivec is not athletic, she is more skill, toughness, and grit like a Marina Mabrey type player" would be less common if PAC-12 games were more available to other regions of the US. [/QUOTE]