And That’s The Way It Is
- Aug 26, 2011
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with Texas able to keep the LongHorn Network.
Reports earlier today, from ESPN, that Herbst is actively/ aggressively talking to the ACC. Not a surprise.
I would think we are going to the ACC by the end of this coming week. I also assume, I know that's bad, but, a deal will be made with the BE so Pitt, Syracuse and Uconn, if we're accepted, will leave the BE after this academic year. I can't see staying for 27 months as the by-laws state.
Again, this is all speculation.
Don't count on the BCS continuing to exist. The 4 super conferences seem likely to be the ACC, Big Ten, SEC, and PAC. 4 times 16 makes 64 teams and a nice number for scheduling and potential playoffs.Great news.
(1) It takes Texas out of the ACC mix.
(2) At minimum now, the Big East & Big XII merge. UConn remains in a BCS conference, even if the ACC doesn't offer.
Don't count on the BCS continuing to exist. The 4 super conferences seem likely to be the ACC, Big Ten, SEC, and PAC. 4 times 16 makes 64 teams and a nice number for scheduling and potential playoffs.
Depaul wont go to the Big 10 because theres no way the Big 10 wants them and because they dont play football
Just going by what seems to be the vision of various "experts" meaning commentators and sports talkers.I don't know what 64 has to do with scheduling or playoffs.
How does the SEC get to 16 teams? The Big 10? There are few attractive program left on the sidelines. I don't see how we get to four 16-team conferences anytime soon.
U. South Florida is another school I was thinking of this morning. Has anyone read if they are 'in play'? I have no idea if there's any buzz about them going to the SEC, but if not, they have become a very solid football school in the last few years and I could see ACC taking a hard look at them. Rutgers has had a few good seasons but they are not on USF's trajectory, IMO.
If I were UCONN, I would be getting to the ACC ASAP, and if I were Rutgers, I would be nervous. The ACC can only take 2 more. UCONN and USF (who knows?) might be the two.
No way USF is going to the ACC. They bring nothign to the table and would be hugely opposed by FSU & Miami.
USF has become a very solid football school in recent years. If I were to guess which school out of UCONN, Rutgers and USF would have the most success (bowl games, overall record) and crowd attendance in coming years, it would easily by USF. Seeing as football is the biggest factor in all of this, that is hardly "nothing".
As far as being opposed by FSU and Miami, I have no idea how hard those schools would push against the idea. If you're right, then fine, USF wouldn't get in. But to say they bring 'nothing' is ridiculous.
Performance is largely irrelevant. It's about new markets and improving the product.
- USF adds nothing for TV. FSU & Mia have FL covered.
- It has little national reputation in any sport.
- It may be marginally better in FB than some others, but overall it is still weak.
- It is way worse in BB.
USF is out in the cold on this one.
Honestly, I am not sure that if these 4 super conferences get together that they will be afraid of the NCAA and might not well go off on their own and reorganize under some new banner and say adios to the NCAA leaving it to manage what remain of Division 1. Replacing the BCS and NCAA on their own terms may well be very attractive to the powers that be in these super conferences. The new organization would have the majority of the teams in terms of TV contracts and even already has a variety of conference and team networks in place that could be forged into a new media structure. As such any threatened death penalty issued by the NCAA would become irrelevent.Your point re: TV is well taken, and it's true that right now USF doesn't have a national rep [yet]. I guess we can agree to disagree on whether it's 'marginally better' in FB than others. I see it as a very solid program that's on the rise, and not close to being weak.
Miami is an interesting wild-card. What will their program look like going forward? While many folks see the death penalty as unlikely, could the fact that realignment is swirling right now actually tip the balance in favor of that penalty? Given that FB is in an unprecedented state of flux anyway, this might be the time the NCAA chooses to use the death penalty, if they are ever to use it on a significant program to set an example.
From an article on line with today's Sporting News:
“Clearly, the impact of the so-called death penalty is really severe,” Emmert said, not speaking specifically about the UM case. “You wouldn’t want to enter into it without a very solid reason for doing so. ... You have to recognize that, today, inflicting that penalty on any one school has a lot of collateral damage to other members of the conference, around media contract rights and a variety of things. So you wouldn’t enter into it casually.
“... Having said that, if that’s an option that the [NCAA] Committee on Infractions believes is appropriate in any one case — it doesn’t matter which one it is — I’m not opposed to them using that. We need to have penalties that serve as effective deterrents so that people who are doing the calculation in their head [as to] whether or not the risks and rewards line up, recognize the price of being caught.” Link to Miami Herald story from August