ESPN BPI

[BFieldHusky]

I have always found their rankings to be solid, and a good resource. I went on this morning, and was surprised to see Arizona, who is 6-5 with their best win being Davidson, at No. 7 in their rankings. Ahead of UConn, Kansas and Alabama.

But their overall metrics aren't bad. Arizona has lost to okay and good teams (Wisconsin, Duke, Oklahoma, West Virginia, UCLA) but still their 23 in the NET, 21 in KenPom. No signature win. Would they get in if the tournament was today?

 

[auror]

Their resume metrics average is 96. They wouldn't get in.

 

[willie99]

Net rankings 23 and KenPom 21

Now I'm more an eye test guy than a metrics guy, but the committee uses these metrics as tools. Hence I think they're in, less they become the best "net rankings" team to be left out

 

[auror]

Net rankings 23 and KenPom 21

Now I'm more an eye test guy than a metrics guy, but the committee uses these metrics as tools. Hence I think they're in, less they become the best "net rankings" team to be left out

St. John's was 21 in KenPom last year and didn't make it.

Inclusion is much more informed by resume metrics, and then seeding is more informed by predictive/power metrics.

 

[shizzle787]

St. John's was 21 in KenPom last year and didn't make it.

Inclusion is much more informed by resume metrics, and then seeding is more informed by predictive/power metrics.

As it should be.

 

[J187Money]

ESPN BPI has us finishing at 26-5 regular season. Losing at Xavier and at Marquette. If that’s where we end up we will be looking good going into postseason play.

 

[BFieldHusky]

ESPN BPI has us finishing at 26-5 regular season. Losing at Xavier and at Marquette. If that’s where we end up we will be looking good going into postseason play.

Depending on how we do in the BET, that's a 2 seed resume, maybe an outside chance at a 1.

 

[BFieldHusky]

St. John's was 21 in KenPom last year and didn't make it.

Inclusion is much more informed by resume metrics, and then seeding is more informed by predictive/power metrics.

Do we know what their NET was?

 

[HooperScooper]

Do we know what their NET was?

32

 

[aburks41]

ESPN BPI has us finishing at 26-5 regular season. Losing at Xavier and at Marquette. If that’s where we end up we will be looking good going into postseason play.

That would very likely give us the 4th 1 seed in March. However if Duke is a higher 1 seed and they get the East regional, it would be better to be the best #2 seed and also get the East vs being sent out West (and yes, I know we’ve won multiple titles in the West regional, but I want to play in Newark and Providence).

 

[businesslawyer]

As it should be.

This. WE shouldn’t be picking a tournament field by how Vegas would view them. We should be picking a tournament field by what you’ve accomplished — who you’ve beaten and where and who you’ve lost to and where. I get that, if you’re betting or predicting, margin of victory matters. But in terms of picking the field, margin of victory should only count at the margins.

 

[CT2SC]

ESPN BPI has us finishing at 26-5 regular season. Losing at Xavier and at Marquette. If that’s where we end up we will be looking good going into postseason play.

While that’s possible it doesn’t seem likely to me that we will only lose two more games. We’ve only played two BE games and both have gone to the wire. Even our past two NC teams have had a couple stumbles in conference (i.e. Seton Hall) that wouldn’t have been predicted. I can’t imagine this less experienced team won’t have one or two of those type of losses. @ Creighton is always tough for us as well.