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Message: [QUOTE="HuskyHawk, post: 3024385, member: 1414"] I guess we disagree. It's like parenting. Kids who don't naturally take to coaching or authority respond [U]when there are consequences[/U]. Whatever Hurley made clear or didn't, yesterday was the first time Jalen faced any real consequences. Until there are consequences, those hard to reach kids will march to the beat of their own drummer. I know that pretty well, I was one of them. I was a lot like Jalen (not athletically, but academically) So let's see how he responds. If he sulks, then yeah, that's who he is. If he gets angry at himself, and changes, then the message may have finally gotten through. [/QUOTE]