Dyson vs Kemba right now

[caw]

Not a particularly good game, but heck its fun to watch them go against each other.

 

[aceboon]

you're a brave man for sitting through that. I watched the Hornets/Grizzlies game last night because I've become somewhat of a Grizzlies fan and Jerome had a nice sequence. Harassed Rudy after he got a rebound, forced a loose ball, dove into the coaching staff's collective lap to keep it in bounds, then on the very next possession assisted on the and 1 to Carl Landry. It was weird seeing him play primarily PG(I know he kind of played de facto PG when Kemba was struggling that year) but he looked ok in doing so.

 

[61cygni]

Big missed dunk

 

[UConnSwag11]

dyson got up big for a dunk but he back rimmed it and seemed to get fouled though

 

[aceboon]

...if Jerome put down the one handed hammer he just attempted he would've been on Sportscenter tonight...I give him props for trying that tho, he probably deserved a foul but didn't get the call.

 

[caw]

I give up. Just horrid basketball. That said, Jerome didn't look out of place in this game. He could be a bench guy in the NBA. Would probably be the 4th guard on Charlotte this year behind Augustin, Kemba and Henderson.

Anyone who said he isn't athletic enough, just doesn't watch enough NBA.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

This becomes a bash Jerome thread in 3...2....1....

 

[Silk City]

All things considered this might have been the worst NBA game of the season.

The Hornets played without their two best players, shot 34%, and still won with no drama.

Teams were a combined 2-27 behind the arc, and it was tied at 47 after three quarters. Miserable.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

. . . and I missed it? Damn!

 

[msgordon]

All things considered this might have been the worst NBA game of the season.

The Hornets played without their two best players, shot 34%, and still won with no drama.

Probably 5 of their best 6 players without Jack, Gordon, Mek, Kaman and Ariza. And the bobcats were at home..they are just horrendous

 

[caw]

Such a horrid game.

Sidenote, Thabeet scored 5 points and 4 rebounds and 1 block in 13 minutes.

 

[joober jones]

No NBA game that one of our guys plays in can be the worst game of the season.

 

[joober jones]

or should I say two of our guys

 

[Joobie]

I watched the Bobcats/Celts game the other night. The C's were playing without KG, Ray & Pierce & cruised for most of the game. Kemba made an AWESOME play; picked Rondo's pocket & went in for a lay-up. Otherwise, it was pretty abysmal. Makes you wonder how MJ could be such a great player & such a bad GM...

...IMO, Kemba is an awesome player on an awesomely TURRIBLE team!

 

[caw]

or should I say two of our guys

It was, just horrible basketball. Esp the third quarter. Neither team could score

 

[sportsjunky1]

It is weird to see jerome as a pg mainly because he was our team "Gunner" his senior season. but i do remember him taking over sometimes for kemba in 09-10 and he wasnt really that good at it. he wasn't a facilitator and just wanted to jack up shots to try to get his stats up because he wanted to impress the scouts that were in the stands most likely watching Stanley Robinson or a player on the other team. What he should have done was feed the ball to Stanley Robinson and let him go to work! I still cannot forget how bad chemistry that team had it just felt like they all were for themselves (mostly Dyson) just because this was their last year to impress the nba. Well it didn't workout and we didn't make the tournament and got beat the 1st round of the NIT to VA Tech #SMH not because of talent (god knows we had alot of it) but because of selfishness. The tournament only helps you as a prospect and that is a big reason why it took jerome so long to get in the nba. His senior season was a waste! you may say this is not a jerome dyson roast forum but i cant help it that year (09-10) still stings me to this day and i believe alot of it had to do with him. people say this team (11-12) had a lot of chemistry issues but just look back to the 09-10 season and you will see selfishness and dysfunction. I can remember that year when we played Cincinnati and yes jerome had a good game "scoring the ball" but he gave up 20 points to lance stephenson(who i might add is a better player) who won them the game. we could have won that game but if Dyson would played defense on Lance and not worried so much about scoring and impressing the scouts that were there looking at the player you were suppose to defend! Thanks Jerome for the 1 tournament (07-08) that you helped us get to during your 4 years at Uconn. And that year we got bounced out on the first day to San Diego! #SMH! and with all this being said i do wish him well as a pro!

 

[caw]

It is weird to see jerome as a pg mainly because he was our team "Gunner" his senior season. but i do remember him taking over sometimes for kemba in 09-10 and he wasnt really that good at it. he wasn't a facilitator and just wanted to jack up shots to try to get his stats up because he wanted to impress the scouts that were in the stands most likely watching Stanley Robinson or a player on the other team. What he should have done was feed the ball to Stanley Robinson and let him go to work! I still cannot forget how bad chemistry that team had it just felt like they all were for themselves (mostly Dyson) just because this was their last year to impress the nba. Well it didn't workout and we didn't make the tournament and got beat the 1st round of the NIT to VA Tech #SMH not because of talent (god knows we had alot of it) but because of selfishness. The tournament only helps you as a prospect and that is a big reason why it took jerome so long to get in the nba. His senior season was a waste! you may say this is not a jerome dyson roast forum but i cant help it that year (09-10) still stings me to this day and i believe alot of it had to do with him. people say this team (11-12) had a lot of chemistry issues but just look back to the 09-10 season and you will see selfishness and dysfunction. I can remember that year when we played Cincinnati and yes jerome had a good game "scoring the ball" but he gave up 20 points to lance stephenson(who i might add is a better player) who won them the game. we could have won that game but if Dyson would played defense on Lance and not worried so much about scoring and impressing the scouts that were there looking at the player you were suppose to defend! Thanks Jerome for the 1 tournament (07-08) that you helped us get to during your 4 years at Uconn. And that year we got bounced out on the first day to San Diego! #SMH! and with all this being said i do wish him well as a pro!

There is so much wrong with your post, I don't know where to begin.

That team did not have a lot of talent. It had 6 players that played in every game:
Kemba, Dyson, Robinson, Edwards, Oriakhi and Jamal Coombs-McDaniel.

They also had Majok, Beverly, Okwandu, Smith and Trice.

I love Beverly and Okwandu because they ended up being good leaders and provided minutes in the NC game, but as juniors they were not good. They were the back up Center and PG that year averaging a combined 2.6 pts, 3 rebounds and 1.4 assists.

Smith and Trice rarely played and were fairly bad.

Majok came in mid-year, showed some good energy but had no clue how to play a team game and barely averaged 3 and 3 in 15 minutes.

Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was probably as bad as Majok, averaging slightly over 3 points per game in 11 minutes on atrocious shooting percentages.

That was the bench, it brought a combined 8.2 PTs, 7.1 Rebounds, 2.2 Assists, 2 Blocks (taking out Smith and Trice who rarely played and rarely contributed) in roughly 45 minutes a game.

That leaves the starting five. Oriakhi was wildly inconsistent as a freshman and only averaged 5 and 6.6 a game and had exactly one double-double.

After that, there were the four returning players. Each averaged double figures in PTs and if one had a bad game, the game was lost. That team wasn't bad but just didn't have the depth to contend with any decent team. Stanley and Gavin were decent players but neither had the ability to take over a game offensively.

Seriously, look at the scores of the games they lost:

• #7 Duke by 9
• #4 UK by 3
• Cincy by 2
• #12 Georgetown by 3
• #20 Pitt by 10
• Michigan by 5
• Providence by 15
• Marquette by 2
• UL by 13
• #3 Cuse by 5
• Cincy by 12
• UL by 2
• ND by 8
• USF by 7
• SJU by 22
• Even VT by 2

8 of the 16 losses were by 5 or less. In contrast, not a single win was by less than 6 (until Northwestern in the NIT). They simply could not win a close game that year at all. Maybe Dyson deserves some of the blame because he couldn't hit a winning shot, but neither could any other player on that team.
I fail to see how Dyson gets all the blame for the fact that team had zero depth. He was a flawed player, but he doesn't deserve to have that season heaped on his shoulders alone.
As for Stanley and feeding him. I like Stanley because he is a good kid, but his ability to dribble was worse than Roscoe and he was probably as hesitant to shoot from the perimeter, though he shot a better percentage.
Finally, for the Cincy game against Lance, UConn actually played decently against him defensively. Kid was 12 of 28 in two games, with 9 rebounds and 5 TO's total. The close/first game Lance killed UConn from the foul line and in the second UConn as a team sucked, not just Dyson. Considering you admit Lance was more talented, I'm not sure what you were expecting.
That team needed another player to step up and average 7-8 points a game, Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was supposed to be that player, or Majok. Neither were.

 

[sportsjunky1]

There is so much wrong with your post, I don't know where to begin.

That team did not have a lot of talent. It had 6 players that played in every game:
Kemba, Dyson, Robinson, Edwards, Oriakhi and Jamal Coombs-McDaniel.

They also had Majok, Beverly, Okwandu, Smith and Trice.

I love Beverly and Okwandu because they ended up being good leaders and provided minutes in the NC game, but as juniors they were not good. They were the back up Center and PG that year averaging a combined 2.6 pts, 3 rebounds and 1.4 assists.

Smith and Trice rarely played and were fairly bad.

Majok came in mid-year, showed some good energy but had no clue how to play a team game and barely averaged 3 and 3 in 15 minutes.

Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was probably as bad as Majok, averaging slightly over 3 points per game in 11 minutes on atrocious shooting percentages.

That was the bench, it brought a combined 8.2 PTs, 7.1 Rebounds, 2.2 Assists, 2 Blocks (taking out Smith and Trice who rarely played and rarely contributed) in roughly 45 minutes a game.

That leaves the starting five. Oriakhi was wildly inconsistent as a freshman and only averaged 5 and 6.6 a game and had exactly one double-double.

After that, there were the four returning players. Each averaged double figures in PTs and if one had a bad game, the game was lost. That team wasn't bad but just didn't have the depth to contend with any decent team. Stanley and Gavin were decent players but neither had the ability to take over a game offensively.

Seriously, look at the scores of the games they lost:

• #7 Duke by 9
• #4 UK by 3
• Cincy by 2
• #12 Georgetown by 3
• #20 Pitt by 10
• Michigan by 5
• Providence by 15
• Marquette by 2
• UL by 13
• #3 Cuse by 5
• Cincy by 12
• UL by 2
• ND by 8
• USF by 7
• SJU by 22
• Even VT by 2

8 of the 16 losses were by 5 or less. In contrast, not a single win was by less than 6 (until Northwestern in the NIT). They simply could not win a close game that year at all. Maybe Dyson deserves some of the blame because he couldn't hit a winning shot, but neither could any other player on that team.

I fail to see how Dyson gets all the blame for the fact that team had zero depth. He was a flawed player, but he doesn't deserve to have that season heaped on his shoulders alone.
As for Stanley and feeding him. I like Stanley because he is a good kid, but his ability to dribble was worse than Roscoe and he was probably as hesitant to shoot from the perimeter, though he shot a better percentage.
Finally, for the Cincy game against Lance, UConn actually played decently against him defensively. Kid was 12 of 28 in two games, with 9 rebounds and 5 TO's total. The close/first game Lance killed UConn from the foul line and in the second UConn as a team sucked, not just Dyson. Considering you admit Lance was more talented, I'm not sure what you were expecting.
That team needed another player to step up and average 7-8 points a game, Jamal Coombs-McDaniel was supposed to be that player, or Majok. Neither were.

You can say everything in the book for an excuse. But the truth is he was a selfish player and he didn't win much at Uconn the year we went to the final 4 he was out who knows if we even would have got that far if he was playing. he jacked way to much at times and sometimes took us out of games. and for you to say Stanley was a okay player doesn't make sence comparing him to Jamal Coombs-McDaniel is disrespectful sticks was a legit NBA prospect and at 1 point considered a 1st round pick. JMC is a mid major player! yes our bench wasn't the best that year. but it was the gunning of dyson that didnt help us find someone that could average a few more baskets!

 

[joober jones]

I know this is going to be an unpopular comment, but I don't get why Adrien always gets a free pass when we talk about selfishness. He tended to play extremely selfishly at times and it seemed like he was often out there to pad stats and wow scouts. Anyone remember how he started jacking up 3s toward the end of his UConn career?

 

[caw]

You can say everything in the book for an excuse. But the truth is he was a selfish player and he didn't win much at Uconn the year we went to the final 4 he was out who knows if we even would have got that far if he was playing. he jacked way to much at times and sometimes took us out of games. and for you to say Stanley was a okay player doesn't make sence comparing him to Jamal Coombs-McDaniel is disrespectful sticks was a legit NBA prospect and at 1 point considered a 1st round pick. JMC is a mid major player! yes our bench wasn't the best that year. but it was the gunning of dyson that didnt help us find someone that could average a few more baskets!

Yes, please feel free to ignore every possible statistic in the book and be blinded by ignorance. I am not making excuses for Dyson, he wasn't as good as UConn needed, but it is astounding that he alone gets the blame for that year. Or at least he gets tagged with it far more than any other player on that team. Fact is without him that team wins 12 games at best.

You are right, with him in 2009 there is no telling if UConn makes the final four. There is a darn good chance they make it to Missouri, considering the scores of the previous games, he wouldn't have negatively changed the outcome at all. Missouri would have been a game built for him, so I think UConn would have won that as well. The fact is with him UConn was darn good and without him UConn was darn good.

BTW, where did I compare Jamal Coombs-McDaniel to Stanley? I compared Stanley to Roscoe, who is still at UConn and all I compared were his shot and dribbling ability. Stanley was/is a freak athlete but he couldn't dribble and was hesitant to shoot.

 

[sportsjunky1]

Yes, please feel free to ignore every possible statistic in the book and be blinded by ignorance. I am not making excuses for Dyson, he wasn't as good as UConn needed, but it is astounding that he alone gets the blame for that year. Or at least he gets tagged with it far more than any other player on that team. Fact is without him that team wins 12 games at best.

You are right, with him in 2009 there is no telling if UConn makes the final four. There is a darn good chance they make it to Missouri, considering the scores of the previous games, he wouldn't have negatively changed the outcome at all. Missouri would have been a game built for him, so I think UConn would have won that as well. The fact is with him UConn was darn good and without him UConn was darn good.

BTW, where did I compare Jamal Coombs-McDaniel to Stanley? I compared Stanley to Roscoe, who is still at UConn and all I compared were his shot and dribbling ability. Stanley was/is a freak athlete but he couldn't dribble and was hesitant to shoot.

I do agree with you that they were good with him and good without him. I do think he should get the most to blame because it was his team. He was suppose to be the top dog (even tho Stanley was the better pro prospect) on the team and he failed miserably to get us a win and to the tournament. To me i think he thought he was a frist round pick and he wanted to show the world he was but "not so fast Mr Dyson" Sorry about the Jamal Coombs-McDaniel i was reading way to fast an got screwed up.

 

[hungry husky]

17 points tonight...nice game.

 

[calamity17]

24 points now in 26 minutes on 5-7 shooting and 14-16 from the line. Judging from the free throw attempts, it appears Jerome still goes hard to the hoop!

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I know this is going to be an unpopular comment, but I don't get why Adrien always gets a free pass when we talk about selfishness. He tended to play extremely selfishly at times and it seemed like he was often out there to pad stats and wow scouts. Anyone remember how he started jacking up 3s toward the end of his UConn career?

Jeff Adrien was 2/6 from 3pt in his entire career. I think you're thinking of a different player.

 

[progrocks]

Also, Adrien was not even on the freaking 2010 team!!! WTF does he have to do with his discussion, his final year, they made the final four!