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Message: [QUOTE="visitingcock, post: 5341012, member: 6872"] I do agree with you but there can be no precise definition of what makes one THE greatest. Is it the most times winning the MVP? If so, A’ja has it down up now. But of course NOT. It requires longevity too, it requires excellent offensive and defensive production over a substantial career. Each of those concepts require looking at a dozen or more factors. Then, there are some intangibles such as leadership, loyalty, playing with “class”, team play , aggressiveness without dirty play. etc. etc. what is a “substantial career? Ten years? 12? 15? Does college performance count? ONE OF THE GOATS is about as good as it can be - and even that can be arguable. Who counts? Top three? Top 5? Top ten? [/QUOTE]