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Message: [QUOTE="triaddukefan, post: 2580516, member: 378"] Here's what Im thinking........ Duke needs to finish 11-5 in the conference... and hope that Miami loses one of its final.. that will clinch 4th in the ACC and get the double bye. We hold the head to head tiebreaker over State and UVA. The problem arises if there is a 3 or 4 way tie.. Taken from an ACC Blog [COLOR=#006633] III, If three or more teams are tied in the standings, the following procedures will be used: (a) The combined record of conference games between the tied teams involved will be compiled. Ties will be broken, and seedings assigned, based on the winning percentage of the combined conference records. The higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group is unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1; 1-0 is the same as 2-0; 2-0 is the same as 4-0; 2-1 is the same as 4-2; 1-0 is better than 1-1; 0-1 is the same as 0-2; 0-2 is the same as 0-4). (b) If procedure (a) fails to break the tie, then each tied team’s record shall be compared to the team occupying the highest position in the final regular-season standings, continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage by a higher winning percentage. (c) If the tie is broken by (a) or (b) regarding one or more teams, but three or more teams remain tied, then procedures (a) and (b) will be reapplied among those tied teams only. :confused: [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]