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Message: [QUOTE="Jaydumo20, post: 4873286, member: 9280"] Specious reasoning. Syracuse football team has never been hanging by a thread. Your argument would survive only if syracuse football were a mess while they were outside the ACC, but now is salvaged because of their inclusion. But this isn't the case. They were in an Orange bowl while in the big east and last year got trounced 45-0 by South Florida after going 6-7. So far being in the ACC hasn't improved Cuse or BC sports at all. Anything else is a technicality. [/QUOTE]