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Message: [QUOTE="nwhoopfan, post: 4407905, member: 7894"] Is Betts the only Fr. making a list? I'm of the mind that no Fr. belong on the preseason watch list. Wait til they actually go out and prove something, then you can add them at midseason. You wanna talk about a "how did she get on there?" player--look at Shay Holle from Texas. Averaged 3.7 ppg last year, started 14 of 35 games (and 1.1 ppg as a Fr). Huh?! What kind of insane improvement are they expecting from her? What position the players are included at has always been a problem and there are always players listed at a position that is not what they actually play. Every year I'm curious about who does the selecting and what it was they were watching that causes them to come up with the lists they do. [/QUOTE]